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Trump and Epstein were great buddies
(07-30-2025, 07:58 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: This whole case was driven by many on the right for a decade, and rightfully so. 

Saying this is a leftist hoax when they never talked about it or leaked anything is just patronizing. 

They fumbled every part of this and changed their story every couple of weeks or even days. His admin aren’t victims on this one. This is just silly unforced errors. They could have sat on it and pushed it back like Biden.

It smells weird. I’m not saying Trump was complicit, but it’s possible he’s trying to protect donors and political allies, which is how it looks with the changing story and “evidence” like a camera not even looking at the cell with time missing, and stitched video. This is after they said all the cameras were down.

It's difficult for me to comment when I don't have all the facts.  And to be frank, what has been said, posted, displayed, might not be factual.
(07-30-2025, 08:03 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: It's difficult for me to comment when I don't have all the facts.  And to be frank, what has been said, posted, displayed, might not be factual.

Would you submit the current circumstantial events and testimonies to the appropriate authorities? Or would you pretend that none of this is anything? Remember that the person we are talking about represents you on the global scale like it or not.
(07-30-2025, 01:33 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: I find it entirely hypocritical that the same people who defended Biden with obvious evidence are condemning Trump without all the evidence.


Come on DB, you're better than that.

I was ATS when the MAGA supporters were all jumping up and down about Biden sniffing hair. I never saw anyone defend that (what ever that weird sh*t was) but many people here are defending Trump over his long time Epstein connections and his perving over his own daughter.
I've seen less evidence used to show a court a person isn't of good character and get a conviction.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(07-30-2025, 08:03 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: It's difficult for me to comment when I don't have all the facts.  And to be frank, what has been said, posted, displayed, might not be factual.


That’s fair. 

Unfortunately we rarely have all the facts when we’re discussing the governments inner workings, they’re a secretive bunch.
(07-31-2025, 06:13 AM)CriticalStinker Wrote: That’s fair. 

Only if Biden and Obama were afforded the same generosity. Something tells me they weren't.
(07-31-2025, 07:56 AM)Ignorant Wrote: Only if Biden and Obama were afforded the same generosity. Something tells me they weren't.


Obama and Biden, and their democrat party brethren, weaponized the government to go after their political opponents, including citizens, and created a two tier justice system in which they were the beneficiaries.
Please tell us more how unfair it was for them.
Thanks for proving my point.
You know,

Once we get to a point where no one is even interested in the alleged "great buddies" Epstein and Trump...

Much of this content belongs the Trump neurosis thread....
Strip that away and the thread barely maintains the topic.

I don't want to step on your free speech, but... is there a course correction in any of you?
Or is it acceptable to just slip the topic of the table...

I mean if it's going to be all focused on political theater...

maybe we should just take this to Deny Politics?

What say you my fellow members?
No wait!  Don't answer that....
  
... but YOU could suggest it, in discussion ... if you like.
(07-31-2025, 09:31 AM)Maxmars Wrote: You know,

Once we get to a point where no one is even interested in the alleged "great buddies" Epstein and Trump...

Much of this content belongs the Trump neurosis thread....
Strip that away and the thread barely maintains the topic.

I don't want to step on your free speech, but... is there a course correction in any of you?
Or is it acceptable to just slip the topic of the table...

I mean if it's going to be all focused on political theater...

maybe we should just take this to Deny Politics?

What say you my fellow members?
No wait!  Don't answer that....
  
... but YOU could suggest it, in discussion ... if you like.


I 2nd this Max. It's just another OMB thread, highlighting obsessive psychosis.
(07-31-2025, 09:31 AM)Maxmars Wrote: You know,

Once we get to a point where no one is even interested in the alleged "great buddies" Epstein and Trump...

Much of this content belongs the Trump neurosis thread....
Strip that away and the thread barely maintains the topic.

I don't want to step on your free speech, but... is there a course correction in any of you?
Or is it acceptable to just slip the topic of the table...

I mean if it's going to be all focused on political theater...

maybe we should just take this to Deny Politics?

What say you my fellow members?
No wait!  Don't answer that....
  
... but YOU could suggest it, in discussion ... if you like.

Proving Trump and Epstein were buddies hasn't been difficult, and if most remove their political blinkers can at least admit that, but I see the 'were great buddies' as a possible inference to the 'friendship' being more.
Now was that them meeting up to take part in assaulting underage girls, swingers parties, or a shared interest in fine dining?? That's were political bias can muddy the water, and lead to neurosis on both sides.
We know Epstein was a pedo' and liked girls in their teens and we know Trump held pageants for young teens and boasted about walking in on them naked. Did they share a middle ground? A lot of the evidence and testimony says YES.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper



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