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Trump and Epstein were great buddies
(07-29-2025, 11:10 PM)AlroyFarms Wrote: He was in office for the last 10 years huh? What about the other administration that had the files? 

You know what else is a bitch? Blind party loyalty bahaha


Lol
(07-29-2025, 11:33 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: I feel the same

You're either loyal to a political leader

Or you're loyal to the truth

One's going to be sacrificed for the other

I think that's a false choice...and an unnecessary sacrifice...

The truth we must acknowledge is that:

- There are NO political "leaders".... only party affiliates.

The media demands that the subject of 'politics' is all about 'politicians.'
Which is why this has the feel of a WWF plot-line...

It's no wonder they find it so easy to pretend.
(07-29-2025, 11:28 PM)AlroyFarms Wrote: Fair enough.

I am about justice and truth and providence no matter whose feels it hurts, even my own.



Same here.

”If the truth shall kill them, let them die"- Kant
(07-30-2025, 12:04 AM)Maxmars Wrote: I think that's a false choice...and an unnecessary sacrifice...

The truth we must acknowledge is that:

- There are NO political "leaders".... only party affiliates.

The media demands that the subject of 'politics' is all about 'politicians.'
Which is why this has the feel of a WWF plot-line...

It's no wonder they find it so easy to pretend.

From my observation 

People who are exceedingly loyal to Trump

Just like people who are exceedingly loyal to Biden or Obama or the Clintons

Or any 'cult of personality'

Have no vested interest in standing for truth or fighting for truth

They've compromised their integrity to idolize a caricature

They will lie without batting an eye

If it means they get a head pat for defending "mommy" or "daddy"
(07-29-2025, 07:45 PM)AlroyFarms Wrote: And if it involves half of current seats of congress and world leaders how would we, the people, react? This can of worms is freaking huge. HUGE.

But I still think Trump needs to be the one to open it for better or for worse. Any other option is protecting the pedo club. 

On that note did anyone notice Pam Bondi's recent black eye? I think that deserves a thread of its own.

Who cares?

"Let justice be done through the heavens should fall." Should be the cry of the day. 

We will never know how big the proverbial can is unless we get to see the actual can and its contents. 

As to Bondi's recent black eye, did she not just have cornea surgery?

Which might be responsible for the bruising.

Dont hold me to that, all the same.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(07-29-2025, 07:35 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: And none of us know, but every Trump hater has already convicted him.

And we won't know unless he allows it.

Sounds like quite the circular argument.

But it's an argument that's not going to go away.

And the only way to resolve the situation is to show the information, so................
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(07-30-2025, 03:38 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Who cares?

"Let justice be done through the heavens should fall." Should be the cry of the day. 

We will never know how big the proverbial can is unless we get to see the actual can and its contents. 

As to Bondi's recent black eye, did she not just have cornea surgery?

Which might be responsible for the bruising.

Dont hold me to that, all the same.


From Bondi's own mouth, she fell in a hotel room trying to go pee in the dark. Maybe the cornea surgery was to repair the injury? I had not heard that part. 

I'm all for justice. I'm offering you the reason why they're hiding these files so adamantly. What do you do when half your government is involved? I mean to the point where if it came out, no sane person would ever trust government again. Do you see what's going on here?

This is something that will change the status quo--something that they'll fight tooth and nail against.

Hey bud I'm just the messenger. This is the way it is, regardless of what I want or how I feel.
(07-30-2025, 04:01 AM)AlroyFarms Wrote: From Bondi's own mouth, she fell in a hotel room trying to go pee in the dark. Maybe the cornea surgery was to repair the injury? I had not heard that part. 

I'm all for justice. I'm offering you the reason why they're hiding these files so adamantly. What do you do when half your government is involved? I mean to the point where if it came out no sane person would ever trust government again. Do you see what's going on here?

This is something that will change the status quo--something that they'll fight tooth and nail against.

Hey bud I'm just the messenger. This is the way it is, regardless of what I want or how I feel.

I hear you, and I get where you're coming from.

If the files really do expose people at the highest levels, it makes sense why there's such resistance.

But it does not explain Trump's obscurification or seeming unwillingness to be completely transparent unless he's part of the problem.

He was going to drain the swamp, remember, not build a dam.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(07-29-2025, 04:50 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Swing and a miss.
You really thought you had him there huh?
Maybe next time. 
Ive been telling you folks, the info is out there.
The only bombshell is when you finally come to grips that Trump didn’t do anything wrong, yet helped the victims.

I feel your hero worshiping is blinding you to the facts.
Lots of evidence has shown Trump "partied" with lots of under-age girls, whilst in the company of Epstein. also his call-ins to the Howard Stern Show are very telling. Many of Trumps pageants were for up and coming models of the younger age (14 to 16). Most may be circumstantial evidence, but people are found guilty on less.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...92328.html
Quote:Donald Trump once hosted a party with “young women” where the disgraced late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein "was the only other guest,” according to a report.
The president is under pressure to release all files relating to the Epstein case, which he has so far refused to do despite a 2024 election promise.
The anecdote was part of a New York Times piece on Saturday entitled “Inside the Long Friendship Between Trump and Epstein.”
It states that “For nearly 15 years, the two men socialized together in Manhattan and Palm Beach, Fla., before a falling out that preceded Mr. Epstein’s first arrest.”
The piece goes on to describe Trump hosting “a party at Mar-a-Lago for young women in a so-called calendar girl competition, Mr. Epstein was the only other guest.”
 ....It states that the party was organized by Florida businessman George Houraney.
“Mr. Houraney recalled being surprised that Mr. Epstein was the only other person on the guest list,” it states.
“I said, ‘Donald, this is supposed to be a party with V.I.P.s,” Mr. Houraney told the newspaper about the party in 2019. “You’re telling me it’s you and Epstein?’”



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
Things are only getting worse for Donald....

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2673782213/
Quote: 
A legal expert warned President Donald Trump on Tuesday that he may have put himself in legal jeopardy by admitting he knew one of Jeffrey Epstein's victims.
Trump told reporters earlier on Tuesday that Epstein "stole" Virginia Giuffre from him when she was employed at Mar-a-Lago. That claim could backfire on Trump because it shows that he knew one of the central victims in the prosecution of Ghislaine Maxwell, according to Ryan Goodman, a law professor at New York University.

 
Goodman pointed to Maxwell's 2022 sentencing, where the judge enhanced her sentence to 20 years because of Giuffre's testimony.
  



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper



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