Trump and Epstein were great buddies

[CriticalStinker]

The victims lawyer, you know the one who applauded Trump for being the only person who helped those victims, said he heard Epstein was kicked from MAL for hitting on a guest’s(14 year old) daughter.
There was also a different instance in which Trump had an issue with Epstein regarding a business deal.
Trump had many issues with Epstein, that’s why he hadn’t talked to him in 15 years despite being in the same billionaires circle.

Trump himself said a different reason today.

I’ll take that over what that lawyer heard.

Doesn’t matter, I’m not accusing Trump of being on the list, just questionable he’s trying to cover up some of his buddies up until now.

[cherokeetroy]

The victims lawyer, you know the one who applauded Trump for being the only person who helped those victims, said he heard Epstein was kicked from MAL for hitting on a guest’s(14 year old) daughter.
There was also a different instance in which Trump had an issue with Epstein regarding a business deal.
Trump had many issues with Epstein, that’s why he hadn’t talked to him in 15 years despite being in the same billionaires circle.

The MAGA lore for several years is that Epstein was expelled for being inappropriate toward the young hired help

Today, Trump stated it was because Epstein was stealing the hired help

I think that puts the rumor to rest

[Vermilion]

Trump himself said a different reason today.

I’ll take that over what that lawyer heard.

Doesn’t matter, I’m not accusing Trump of being on the list, just questionable he’s trying to cover up some of his buddies up until now.

You’re not going to take the victims lawyers word about what he uncovered?
Yet you want the DOJ, who doesn’t represent the victims, to look at the case again and surely you’ll believe them? LoL
Seems like you’ll only believe something that fits into your own narrative.
Theres a word for that.
You realize he represented many victims and dug through all the allegations right?
There appears to be many reasons why Trump excommunicated Epstein.
This stuff is all out there.

[xuenchen]

Here's the point you're missing

Nothing as been proven for ANYONE 

it's all hearsay 

Even for Maxwell, evidently 

Who's just a scapegoat for Epstein

Who said I missed that point? 

[CriticalStinker]

You’re not going to take the victims lawyers word about what he uncovered?
Yet you want the DOJ, who doesn’t represent the victims, to look at the case again and surely you’ll believe them? LoL
Seems like you’ll only believe something that fits into your own narrative.
Theres a word for that.
You realize he represented many victims and dug through all the allegations right?
There appears to be many reasons why Trump excommunicated Epstein.
This stuff is all out there.

You said the lawyer heard Trump kicked him out for creeping.

Yet Trump gave a different reason today. 

By your logic, you’re believing what fits your narrative. I’ll play devils advocate and say Trump meant Epstein was taking his staff to do more than “work”.

But I’ve been following this for over ten years. I know all the stories and the players.

Like I said, Trump may not be implicated in all of this, but yes, I do have a suspicion he would have rather it all gone away. Maybe to protect friends. I don’t know. And it doesn’t help their story has been changing daily/weekly.

I think people on both sides will go down. The only two I’m confident about are Clinton and Andrew right now. 

You can continue to try and run the official line if you want, that’s your right. Just interested how you’ll pivot if she gets a bargain and others get named. After all, you have said there’s nothing there, and even go as far to put victims in quotation marks. Newsmax has even started chumming the waters to say Maxwell is a victim. Tealeaves aren’t looking good.

[cherokeetroy]

Who said I missed that point? 

"If they had dirt on Trump, they would've used it" isn't a strong argument 

Especially if the evidence is being withheld for blackmail and there's some pact or deadman's switch that would assure mutual destruction of everyone if anyone was outed

Trump shows zero interest in accountability 

Even if it means implicating his so-called enemies.

He'd rather the whole thing just blow over 

I think he's really angry that part of his base is holding his feet to the fire

 As far as Democrats planting his name in the files

 Why would they do that then not declassify them or leak to the press?

 Democrats had no interest in the Epstein case, either

 It's one issue that neither side wanted to bring attention to

 That's the tell

[Vermilion]

You said the lawyer heard Trump kicked him out for creeping.

Yet Trump gave a different reason today. 

By your logic, you’re believing what fits your narrative. I’ll play devils advocate and say Trump meant Epstein was taking his staff to do more than “work”.

But I’ve been following this for over ten years. I know all the stories and the players.

Like I said, Trump may not be implicated in all of this, but yes, I do have a suspicion he would have rather it all gone away. Maybe to protect friends. I don’t know. And it doesn’t help their story has been changing daily/weekly.

I think people on both sides will go down. The only two I’m confident about are Clinton and Andrew right now. 

You can continue to try and run the official line if you want, that’s your right. Just interested how you’ll pivot if she gets a bargain and others get named. After all, you have said there’s nothing there, and even go as far to put victims in quotation marks. Newsmax has even started chumming the waters to say Maxwell is a victim. Tealeaves aren’t looking good.

James Patterson tells two stories about Epstein at MAL in an interview I’ll link to down below.
One was Epstein getting crazy with a young daughter of a member.
The other was the manager of the MAL spa who told him Epstein was “inappropriate” with the spa girls and Trump kicked him out that very day.
https://x.com/SavageOld19174/status/1779...geOld19174

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-IooOyYKzu...ZXJzb24%3D

There are two stories about two different incidents.
One incident (propositioning a members daughter) has been corroborated by both the victims lawyer and James Patterson.
The other incident (MAL spa manager says Trump kicked Epstein out) has been told by James Patterson.

Also, this from the New York Post who saw the court filings…

”Trump allegedly banned Epstein from his Maralago Club in West Palm Beach because Epstein sexually assaulted a girl at the club,” according to the papers, filed in the Sunshine State as part of an ongoing legal battle between Epstein and Bradley Edwards, who represented many of Epstein’s underage accusers in civil suits against him.”
https://nypost.com/2019/07/09/trump-barr...ourt-docs/

[CriticalStinker]

James Patterson tells two stories about Epstein at MAL in an interview I’ll link to down below.
One was Epstein getting crazy with a young daughter of a member.
The other was the manager of the MAL spa who told him Epstein was “inappropriate” with the spa girls and Trump kicked him out that very day.
https://x.com/SavageOld19174/status/1779...geOld19174

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-IooOyYKzu...ZXJzb24%3D

There are two stories about two different incidents.
One incident (propositioning a members daughter) has been corroborated by both the victims lawyer and James Patterson.
The other incident (MAL spa manager says Trump kicked Epstein out) has been told by James Patterson.

Also, this from the New York Post who saw the court filings…

”Trump allegedly banned Epstein from his Maralago Club in West Palm Beach because Epstein sexually assaulted a girl at the club,” according to the papers, filed in the Sunshine State as part of an ongoing legal battle between Epstein and Bradley Edwards, who represented many of Epstein’s underage accusers in civil suits against him.”
https://nypost.com/2019/07/09/trump-barr...ourt-docs/

Like I said, implicating Trump was never an agenda of mine.

The interesting part to me has always been why the story has always changed.

There was a leftist admin before this one. Odd they never talked about this subject, or leaked anything if this is their hoax according to the current admin.

A few weeks ago, this case was closed with certainty no other people were involved. In fact, the top two FBI heads had a career go expose this very topic, but said he definitively killed himself based on a camera that didn’t point at the cell (but missing a minute and spliced). Don jr. And Vance have tweeted about it regularly.

So what’s the move? Pretend it was all a leftist hoax they never talked about (because they wanted it to go away). Or suddenly the DOJ was wrong, and there is something here.

The funny part to me is I just want to see them all burn. Don’t care what side they’re on.

[Vermilion]

Like I said, implicating Trump was never an agenda of mine.

The interesting part to me has always been why the story has always changed.

There was a leftist admin before this one. Odd they never talked about this subject, or leaked anything if this is their hoax according to the current admin.

A few weeks ago, this case was closed with certainty no other people were involved. In fact, the top two FBI heads had a career go expose this very topic, but said he definitively killed himself based on a camera that didn’t point at the cell (but missing a minute and spliced). Don jr. And Vance have tweeted about it regularly.

So what’s the move? Pretend it was all a leftist hoax they never talked about (because they wanted it to go away). Or suddenly the DOJ was wrong, and there is something here.

The funny part to me is I just want to see them all burn. Don’t care what side they’re on.

Those multiple incidents about Epstein at MAL are all legit.

They have been out in the public for years.
The hoax the left is pushing is that “Trump is hiding the Epstein list”.
Trump is hiding nothing.
Theres nothing there.
The only thing hidden, by the courts who already told the DOJ “no”, are the grand jury stuff and the privileged info protecting the victims.
That also includes Epstein’s journal, which is his list of all those women and girls.
There is no client list.
The mob isn’t getting any of that stuff.
If you feel duped, angry, or lied to when everybody(both sides) alleged for years that there was damning stiff in those files then you’re just going to have to get over it.
I know you want everybody to burn, you’re part of the problem. (The mob)
Trump is a narcissist.
He wants the attention on his winning and the deals he’s doing, not on some dead pedo and his lying madam.
The next move?
The courts aren’t letting that stuff out.
Maxwell will most likely try and seem useful somehow.
That privileged bitch doesn’t want to spend one more day there.
I think her lawyer makes a stink about that non prosecution agreement in Florida.
Maybe she makes some unbelievable allegations.
I’d guess she ends up getting kicked out of the country, losing her US citizenship, and transferred to a UK prison.
By the way, while some of you were crying about the Epstein thing, the DOJ just shut down a child abuse dark website that had 120,000 members and MILLIONS of files.
That’s what I want the Feds to do with their time.

[cherokeetroy]

Those multiple incidents about Epstein at MAL are all legit.

They have been out in the public for years.
The hoax the left is pushing is that “Trump is hiding the Epstein list”.
Trump is hiding nothing.
Theres nothing there.
The only thing hidden, by the courts who already told the DOJ “no”, are the grand jury stuff and the privileged info protecting the victims.
That also includes Epstein’s journal, which is his list of all those women and girls.
There is no client list.
The mob isn’t getting any of that stuff.
If you feel duped, angry, or lied to when everybody(both sides) alleged for years that there was damning stiff in those files then you’re just going to have to get over it.
I know you want everybody to burn, you’re part of the problem. (The mob)
Trump is a narcissist.
He wants the attention on his winning and the deals he’s doing, not on some dead pedo and his lying madam.
The next move?
The courts aren’t letting that stuff out.
Maxwell will most likely try and seem useful somehow.
That privileged bitch doesn’t want to spend one more day there.
I think her lawyer makes a stink about that non prosecution agreement in Florida.
Maybe she makes some unbelievable allegations.
I’d guess she ends up getting kicked out of the country, losing her US citizenship, and transferred to a UK prison.
By the way, while some of you were crying about the Epstein thing, the DOJ just shut down a child abuse dark website that had 120,000 members and MILLIONS of files.
That’s what I want the Feds to do with their time.

The Epstein "hoax" wasn’t started by the Democrats

Trump's so-called Epstein "hoax" was born from the lies out of Trump's own mouth and the mouths of his team. Lies that you won't acknowledge because it would destroy your own false narrative 

If it did turn out to be a hoax, that would mean over 100,000 legal documents have been tampered with

Falsifying records is a federal crime punishable by 20 years:

18 U.S.C. § 1519 is a federal statute that criminalizes the destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations or bankruptcy proceedings. It states: Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

Trump claims those files were run by the worst scum on Earth-- Comey, Garland, Biden...

The President is the head of the executive branch and has a constitutional duty to ensure laws are faithfully executed

Trump has full authority to direct and make sure those laws are faithfully executed

Criminals need to be arrested

But they're not going to be

Not over Epstein or Russiagate or anything else 

And you'll just keep playing along pretending you're winning, ignoring every lie and prevarication because you're compelled to prop up your false savior