Trump and Epstein were great buddies

[SomeStupidName]

Good, burn them all at the stake. I don't understand why MAGA is still trying to justify Trump being on Epsteins list by complaining that other presidents might be on there too. So? Burn them at the stake too. There is no and will never be an excuse for what they did. And don't forget, Maxwell was also convicted of molestation and rape. Her testimony is about as believable as my butthole singing Frank Sinatra songs.

No one is justify anything but you guys have tried to fabricate stuff that wasn't accurate. both sides are calling for this release. President Vance can step in if anything is found it's okay. MAGA has some receipts of Trumps relationship with Epstein if it's found to be more they think i don't think they will hesitate to say fry'em too since this is their conspiracy theory before anyone else.

[Maxmars]

From Maxwell’s lawyer:

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One response might be,

"US justice is not psychic, if you want to exercise immunity...

you must specify as to which crime it applies...."

Except... they don't report ALL deals... they don't even investigate ALL deals...

[Vermilion]

From Maxwell’s lawyer:

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You know what's coming, right?

“Ms. Maxwell has appealed her conviction to the Supreme Court, arguing that she should not have been charged in the sex trafficking case because of a nonprosecution agreement that federal attorneys in Florida reached in 2007. The agreement promised that potential co-conspirators would not be prosecuted, but Ms. Maxwell argues it should have also protected her from prosecution in New York.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/25/us/po...ardon.html

That’s her argument.
I’ll give you a little context.
That non prosecution agreement from 2007 specifically said the DOJ in Florida won’t prosecute again.
It didn’t mention any other state not going after them.
Thats how they got Epstein the second time and Maxwell also.
New York went after them.
There are arguments to made if that’s legal but it was in there nonetheless.

[Maxmars]

There are arguments to made if that’s legal but it was in there nonetheless.

I wonder if anyone wants to convict her of crimes she committed since then?

Or do they 'fall apart' without the contextual background, which some legal 
genius burned in a pile behind the courthouse?

[cherokeetroy]

Forget Epstein. Forget even Maxwell. If you want to understand how elite sex trafficking truly operated — not as a scandal but as a system — you start with the modeling agencies.
 
In the late 20th century, John Casablancas (founder of Elite Model Management) built the original model: turn teenage girls into glamorized assets. Jean-Luc Brunel took it international, founding MC2 and receiving at least $1 million from Jeffrey Epstein to expand operations. Paolo Zampolli cornered the visa angle, using U.S. immigration loopholes to bring in young foreign models — often from Eastern Europe and South America — under false pretenses.
 
Then came Mister Donald Trump.
 
In 1999, Donald Trump launched Trump Model Management. His agency followed the exact same pattern: bring girls in on tourist or “extraordinary talent” visas, overcrowd them in overpriced apartments, charge them for every service, and send them to work illegally while racking up debt they could never repay. Former models from his agency say they were instructed to lie to customs and start working immediately upon arrival.
 
This wasn’t theory. It was documented. The visas were real. The labor was real. THE FRAUD WAS REAL.
 
And yes — Melania Knauss, now Melania Trump, reportedly came to the U.S. under a visa arranged by Zampolli. She, too, was placed in this system. The glamour glossed over the structure beneath.
 
This wasn’t a rogue operation. It was a network. And it wasn’t built on lust — it was built on leverage.
 
In the early 1990s, Donald Trump joined forces with John Casablancas — founder of Elite Model Management — to elevate Look of the Year, a global modeling competition created to scout teenage girls for contracts with Elite. Trump hosted the event at his Plaza Hotel, appeared as a judge, and became closely tied to Casablancas’s modeling empire. The competition promised fame but often placed underage contestants in precarious situations with powerful men.
 
Around the same time, Trump purchased the Miss USA, Miss Teen USA, and Miss Universe pageants — contests where he would later admit to entering dressing rooms unannounced.

“I’ll go backstage before a show… and I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant,” he told Howard Stern in a 2005 interview. “You know, they’re standing there with no clothes… and so I sort of get away with things like that.” His comment echoed real allegations: Tasha Dixon, Miss Arizona USA 2001, said Trump “just came strolling right in” while contestants were changing.

Another contestant, Mariah Billado of Miss Teen USA, said he entered their dressing room too — when many girls were still minors. Though Look of the Year was separate, the access and entitlement Trump described were part of a broader system where youth, beauty, and silence were routinely exploited.
 
This was not viewed as a scandal. It was a business model.

Trump, Clinton, Epstein, Casablancas, Zampolli — they weren’t anomalies. They were archetypes. This wasn’t red vs. blue. This was green. Profits, protection, proximity to power.

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[CriticalStinker]

Multiples of cities, states, the feds, and thousands of victims have gone after this since 1998.
Hundreds of millions paid out by banks and the Epstein estate through civil courts.
If there was enough evidence to get somebody, I believe they would have already.
I have a hard time believing that out of the thousands involved, not one person has come forward with enough evidence to get somebody who truly was guilty.
Is there guilty people wrapped up in this thing going on almost 30 years?
I’d bet yes absolutely but there’s just no evidence that can be adjudicated criminally.
Some people are just going to have to reconcile to themselves the fact that the justice they’re going to get is Epstein is dead, Maxwell is in prison, and Pedo Prince Andrew is totally disgraced.

A lot of crime happens in politics that doesn’t get prosecuted. I’d be willing to bet that has less to do with not enough evidence, and more to do with politicized justice systems and those in power not wanting to lessen their scope of power.

That crime and corruption isn’t isolated to this. And the only reason we haven’t seen a true appetite to addressing it, is because it’s only discussed in a partisan fashion. IE, my opponents did _______ while vehemently defending party members accused of similar allegations. You see, they rarely actually even try to go after eachother, because if they do that means it’s open season.

This is something a majority of well read people would agree on, depending on the context asked.

It’s evident by the political talking points themselves, every election they run on “vote for me to preserve this nation, my opponent wants to destroy it”. It’s not even thinly veiled, and if you go on social media or boards like this, each party will point to the exact transgressions they’d like to see the government go after, but that never happens.

The difference is I don’t think only one side is doing it. I think they both are, and this case sticks out because it directly victimized the population. Notice, I don’t put victims in quotations.

[xuenchen]

NXIVM

[cherokeetroy]

Good, burn them all at the stake. I don't understand why MAGA is still trying to justify Trump being on Epsteins list by complaining that other presidents might be on there too. So? Burn them at the stake too. There is no and will never be an excuse for what they did. And don't forget, Maxwell was also convicted of molestation and rape. Her testimony is about as believable as my butthole singing Frank Sinatra songs.

Here's what i don't get:

Trump ran in the same circles as the perps 
They were more than business associates
He was friends with Epstein
He was friends with Maxwell
Trump was directly involved in the modeling racket that ran cover for human trafficking 
Trump owned his own modeling agency
He owned the pageant circuitry 
He was involved in the system of hunting for girls (including minors) to exploit
He brought girls to the US on Visas from Eastern European countries that are notorious for child trafficking 
He was involved with Wexner, Jean-Luc Brunel and many other well known names in the modeling industry. Names that have faced accusations of sexual misconduct 

Yet...somehow...magically...everyone is guilty EXCEPT TRUMP

[Vermilion]

Here's what i don't get:

Trump ran in the same circles as the perps 
They were more than business associates
He was friends with Epstein
He was friends with Maxwell
Trump was directly involved in the modeling racket that ran cover for human trafficking 
Trump owned his own modeling agency
He owned the pageant circuitry 
He was involved in the system of hunting for girls (including minors) to exploit
He brought girls to the US on Visas from Eastern European countries that are notorious for child trafficking 
He was involved with Wexner, Jean-Luc Brunel and many other well known names in the modeling industry. Names that have faced accusations of sexual misconduct 

Yet...somehow...magically...everyone is guilty EXCEPT TRUMP

The most investigated man, in the history of man, to ever live.
Amazing they haven’t found anything.
Has it ever occurred to you that there’s so little there that they had to start making stuff up?
”Theres gotta be something criminal there! He’s so hated.”
Rent free.

The victims lawyer said Trump was the only person to help go after Epstein.
Kinda dumb to help lock up a pedo blackmailer if Trump was truly guilty of doing wrong and Epstein knew it.
see for yourself…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tWajz8X0d0k

[xuenchen]

Here's what i don't get:

Trump ran in the same circles as the perps 
They were more than business associates
He was friends with Epstein
He was friends with Maxwell
Trump was directly involved in the modeling racket that ran cover for human trafficking 
Trump owned his own modeling agency
He owned the pageant circuitry 
He was involved in the system of hunting for girls (including minors) to exploit
He brought girls to the US on Visas from Eastern European countries that are notorious for child trafficking 
He was involved with Wexner, Jean-Luc Brunel and many other well known names in the modeling industry. Names that have faced accusations of sexual misconduct 

Yet...somehow...magically...everyone is guilty EXCEPT TRUMP

You miss the whole big point.

Nobody could ever prove ANYTHING about Trump.

If they coulda - they woulda 

They couldn't even fake it like they tried with the other setups