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(11-19-2025, 01:34 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Pour one out for MAGA who, over the last 10 years, have gone from demanding the Epstein files be released to then to pretending the Epstein files didnt matter to then celebrating the release all because Democrats are getting exposure
Democrats were once again doctoring evidence to make it seem like Trump is guilty*
Or be like Democrats; do everything in your power to sweep every shred of evidence under the rug untill MAGA makes it a priority to get it released.
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(11-19-2025, 01:34 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Pour one out for MAGA who, over the last 10 years, have gone from demanding the Epstein files be released to then to pretending the Epstein files didnt matter to then celebrating the release all because Democrats are getting exposure
And pour one out for the partisans on both sides who will never stop insisting that this is a Democrat versus Republican issue, and no matter how much evidence they are shown will not admit that the international cabal that was running Epstein has controlled both sides of Congress for decades. Who do not see it as suspicious at all that the bipartisan "transparency" legislation somehow gives the Attorney General unilateral power to classify and hide evidence in the name of "national security" and to protect our "allies".
Pour one out for them, too, pour it right on the floor, because they're too blind to see a glass, and apparently the only way they can drink is get down on their knees and lap it up.
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(11-19-2025, 01:34 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Pour one out for MAGA who, over the last 10 years, have gone from demanding the Epstein files be released to then to pretending the Epstein files didnt matter to then celebrating the release all because Democrats are getting exposure
no, you clearly were not paying attention. we all still stand by the release, we all believed there was a mundane explanation for Trump being in the files but you will find others from the gop. However given the era this all occurred it wouldn't be shocking if something on Trump did surface and if it did then he would have to answer for that.
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The vote was 427-1 regarding the release of the files.
Who the heck do you imagine voted "no"?
Edit: Apparently, it was Clay Higgins(Louisiana).
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(11-19-2025, 05:16 AM)andy06shake Wrote: The vote was 427-1 regarding the release of the files.
[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSGCLvWBMUM]
Who the heck do you imagine voted "no"?
Edit: Apparently, it was Clay Higgins(Louisiana).
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...5341_n.jpg]
Clay Higgins quotes…
“As written, this bill reveals and injures thousands of innocent people – witnesses, people who provided alibis, family members, etc.”
“If enacted in its current form, this type of broad reveal of criminal investigative files, released to a rabid media, will absolutely result in innocent people being hurt. Not by my vote.”
“The Oversight Committee is conducting a thorough investigation that has already released well over 60,000 pages of documents from the Epstein case. That effort will continue in a manner that provides all due protections for innocent Americans.”
“If the Senate amends the bill to properly address privacy of victims and other Americans, who are named but not criminally implicated, then I will vote for that bill when it comes back to the House.”
“The Oversight Committee is conducting an official investigation into Epstein related matters and we’re following all established rules of criminal justice procedure… Meanwhile, the Oversight Committee will continue to conduct an actual, deep investigation into all things Epstein related… and every individual’s rights under American law will be protected.”
“It’s not the White House and the president, it’s people that stand for long-standing criminal justice procedures that this bill does not observe. If you support 200 years of criminal justice precedent on how this type of investigation moves forward, then you support what we’re doing in the Oversight Committee, not what’s being pushed in this petition.”
Republicans have released over 60,000 Epstein files.
Democrats have released 3.
Higgins is one of the only congressman with an actual working spine.
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11-19-2025, 08:31 AM
This post was last modified: 11-19-2025, 08:35 AM by putnam6. 
(11-18-2025, 10:37 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: A lot of them are trying to protect their donors and party members. It was only a few months ago that Trump said this was all a hoax, plus Bondi and Patel said they reviewed everything, there was nothing more, and no one else was involved.
It appears to me there is a lot of disregard/refute/disputing of evidence going on.
Of course, Trump is dismissive. We are pulling evidence from cases already adjudicated and mostly hidden behind those rascally NDAs, there were NDAs for a reason. Both sides have juggled the hot potato; evidently, Trump's evidence of involvement wasnt too damaging, or it would have been used before. This seems highly plausible. But it's likely Israel/Mossad and friends, family in high places behind the NDAs Republicans, Democrats, whoever opens it up will have the stink on thier Presidency, thats was by design.
Tired of the speculation, open it, then let's move on. Felt the same about Bill and Monica after a certain point, and this is worse its been dangling for years.
Bottomline: how many FBI directors and prosecutors already know, AND didn't RELEASE IT BEFORE.
Why didnt Biden release it?
There's no new evidence for those in the know, it's only news to the GP
Nobody else wanted to deal with the shit storm
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
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But change is
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(11-19-2025, 05:16 AM)andy06shake Wrote: The vote was 427-1 regarding the release of the files.
[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSGCLvWBMUM]
Who the heck do you imagine voted "no"?
Edit: Apparently, it was Clay Higgins(Louisiana).
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...5341_n.jpg]
It sounds like this is theatrical at the end of the day.
Mike Johnson noted that this is a national security matter, and intelligence is involved. So in the bill they added measures that would allow DOJ (Bondi) to review and redact with that caveat. I don’t see any reason she would suddenly become more transparent now than before.
It’s abundantly clear they’ve constantly been changing their story, and they’re trying to cover for some people. Question is who.
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(11-19-2025, 08:32 AM)CriticalStinker Wrote: It sounds like this is theatrical at the end of the day.
Mike Johnson noted that this is a national security matter, and intelligence is involved. So in the bill they added measures that would allow DOJ (Bondi) to review and redact with that caveat. I don’t see any reason she would suddenly become more transparent now than before.
It’s abundantly clear they’ve constantly been changing their story, and they’re trying to cover for some people. Question is who.
Oh, it's all a dog and pony show, and theatrical window dressing for the masses.
But that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Who indeed CriticalStinker.
Most decent, sane people want the answer to that conundrum, and on all sides of the political aisle.
As to clear, unfortunately, about as clear as mud, and as suggested, that's by design.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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11-19-2025, 08:45 AM
This post was last modified: 11-19-2025, 08:47 AM by UltraBudgie. 
(11-19-2025, 08:39 AM)andy06shake Wrote: As to clear, unfortunately, about as clear as mud, and as suggested, that's by design.
Perhaps mud is more opaque where you are?
The "intersecting rings" structure of the transnational elite has been well documented. I would recommend starting with Carroll Quigley, but I'm sure you already knew that.
Not much of a design. Mutual assured destruction seem to be the premise? Who wants to unwind all that, really.
But I appreciate your realism Andy. Fiat justitia indeed.
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(11-19-2025, 08:31 AM)Vermilion Wrote: Clay Higgins quotes…
“As written, this bill reveals and injures thousands of innocent people – witnesses, people who provided alibis, family members, etc.”
“If enacted in its current form, this type of broad reveal of criminal investigative files, released to a rabid media, will absolutely result in innocent people being hurt. Not by my vote.”
“The Oversight Committee is conducting a thorough investigation that has already released well over 60,000 pages of documents from the Epstein case. That effort will continue in a manner that provides all due protections for innocent Americans.”
“If the Senate amends the bill to properly address privacy of victims and other Americans, who are named but not criminally implicated, then I will vote for that bill when it comes back to the House.”
“The Oversight Committee is conducting an official investigation into Epstein related matters and we’re following all established rules of criminal justice procedure… Meanwhile, the Oversight Committee will continue to conduct an actual, deep investigation into all things Epstein related… and every individual’s rights under American law will be protected.”
“It’s not the White House and the president, it’s people that stand for long-standing criminal justice procedures that this bill does not observe. If you support 200 years of criminal justice precedent on how this type of investigation moves forward, then you support what we’re doing in the Oversight Committee, not what’s being pushed in this petition.”
Republicans have released over 60,000 Epstein files.
Democrats have released 3.
Higgins is one of the only congressman with an actual working spine.
Who also loves to film videos inside the gas chamber at Auschwitz.
And has only the nicest things to say about Haitians and brown people.
If you say so Vermilion.
Again, and quite simply "Fiat justitia, ruat caelum."
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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