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(07-09-2025, 12:57 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Maybe CNN?
There is no need to state facts.
Think about the damage control aspect, vids of him getting golden showerers by adult sex workers will divert attention from this list of Epstines.
I was not here.
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(07-09-2025, 01:06 PM)Moon68 Wrote: When you have one side deporting human traffickers, rapists, murderers and pedos while the other side actively is trying stop that from happening, riddle me this then. Who has the better record? They aren't the same and to try and conflate the situation painting it as such demonstrates a serious disconnect from reality. Something else to ponder, what was the last administration able to purge into the ether in order to cover collective asses?
I think a lot of the protest is on how the deportation is going. It’s not just the left who is concerned with military being deployed on our soil, or extraordinary renditions to foreign prisons, of a nation not of the persons origin.
But when you’re right, you’re right… the left is weak on deportation/immigration broadly.
The left also sat on this case for four years with no action. As for them “purging” evidence, that would be pretty easy to know yea? The evidence was brought in and serialized under Trumps first term. The evidence was gone over by lawyers, one of whom even said Trump wasn’t on “the list” that now allegedly doesn’t exist.
I’m sure there are people under his first admin who saw some of the more damning pieces of evidence for the case, even though the arrest happened about 4 months before leaving office.
None of that absolves either side. They’re both complicit in this cover up, and you can deport 1 million criminals, but if you cover up child rapists who have power in this country, that doesn’t make you good or better. It just shows you’re selective on who you punish.
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(07-09-2025, 01:14 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I think a lot of the protest is on how the deportation is going. It’s not just the left who is concerned with military being deployed on our soil, or extraordinary renditions to foreign prisons, of a nation not of the persons origin.
The military presence would not be necessary if the riots and attacks on immigration and police officers were not happening.
Also, not the first time the military had been deployed to LA for riots.
But I digress, back to the topic at hand.
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(07-09-2025, 01:11 PM)BeTheGoddess Wrote: There is no need to state facts.
Think about the damage control aspect, vids of him getting golden showerers by adult sex workers will divert attention from this list of Epstines.
There always has to be another diversion from the previous diversion from the one before that, from ....
"The only journey is the one within."
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(07-09-2025, 01:19 PM)PorkChop96 Wrote: The military presence would not be necessary if the riots and attacks on immigration and police officers were not happening.
Also, not the first time the military had been deployed to LA for riots.
But I digress, back to the topic at hand.
Yea, I didn’t want to derail, just adding context that it’s not always someone saying that all criticism of the policies are because someone is pro illegal immigration.
But ultimately it goes down to the main point I had. You could stop it more times than you covered it up, you’re still bad for covering it up. Especially considering there are likely people still in power whether it be government or private who participated in that.
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(07-09-2025, 01:19 PM)PorkChop96 Wrote: The military presence would not be necessary if the riots and attacks on immigration and police officers were not happening.
Also, not the first time the military had been deployed to LA for riots.
But I digress, back to the topic at hand.
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(07-09-2025, 01:06 PM)Moon68 Wrote: When you have one side deporting human traffickers, rapists, murderers and pedos while the other side actively is trying stop that from happening, riddle me this then. Who has the better record? They aren't the same and to try and conflate the situation painting it as such demonstrates a serious disconnect from reality. Something else to ponder, what was the last administration able to purge into the ether in order to cover collective asses?
I heard recently of a pedo who bought his victim ice cream first does that make his record any better than the pedo who did not?
Or perhaps those that are deporting realise if they deport pedos theres more victims to prey on themselves?
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07-09-2025, 03:40 PM
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Many say he was using Epstine sourced girls for other congressmen and senators--well if the ists no longer exsts, he doesnt have that barganing chip with them.
You remember back on Tuesday the 11th of September 2001 where there was a massive demolition in NY?. Remember the rubble got shipped to China pretty quickly, remember Trumps construction company does clear sites to do the building?.
I hate the term but "follow the money"
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07-09-2025, 06:07 PM
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A little food for thought if you can put aside your yeah Trump, or your TDS.
used on another site.
In the context of the Diddy trial results.
The judge dismissing the Cuomo sexual harassment case.
And people believing Pizza gate was swept under the rug.
Say Trump and Clinton’s name is on the “client list”?
Playing devil’s advocate. And the DOJ made this big deal about people being on that list being evidence of human trafficking and sex with children with no eye witnesses to testify. I think lawyers defending Trump and Clinton would have a field day in court.
So. How do you tie people on a list to actual crimes?
Listened to a good local analysis of the Epstein debacle.
I’ll try to paraphrase.
Contrary to Hollywood, criminals don’t link all their crimes in a little black book.
The Trump administration messed up making promises it can’t keep.
The Epstein case is so tainted, there are legal issues that innocent people “listed” by Epstein could be slandered. People that had actual legitimate business with Epstein.
Over simplifying, Ghislaine Maxwell is jail with evidence of only pimping to Epstein.
Maurene Comey, the daughter of former FBI Director James Comey, was over the Maxwell and Epstein case.
Maurene Comey as prosecutor in the Epstein case had evidence sealed. This is not unusual, and is unusually to keep the defense from miss using evidence.
The only way to clear this up may to be to unseal the case at the expense of victim’s privacy.
The Epstein matter wasn’t even a top 5 concern for voters during the presidential election.
Maurene Comey, the daughter of former FBI Director James Comey, was over the Maxwell and Epstein cases.
If there is as any evidence linking Trump to an Epstein crime, it would more than likely have been leaked. Or legal action taken. Do you doubt otherwise. I would even say a plea deal would have been struck with the still living and in jail Maxwell to get dirt on Trump.
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The reality of the situation is that. you have the whole of the top echelons, at some stage of their lives in what could be called various Flagrenti delecti , swinging parties, Police commissionaires sniffing coke with political buddies of course that goes on it always has. It is the "Club" The British upper class are the biggest swingers of all, it just has to remain private. So the little people tied down with middle class morality don't get much of a whiff. But what seemed to change at some stage certain security agencies, could use these high profilers to get information and use the pics to get leverage. This seems to have grown as an asset base over the years with the sexual revolution, where mere homosexuality was passe till the point where you needed a bit more leverage hence the under ade aspect of the situation, which seems to have got to the point where even Prime a Minister had children delivered to them in the midnight hours.
So who has the most information of this type of thing , will eventually control the whole system, it isn't hard to put two and two together. All the so called elected politicians all work for the same boss. Any information which goes public is leverage lost. Hence no Epstein file.
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