Trump and Epstein were great buddies

[WallFlowerActive]

Okie dokie, well I have to go now and watch a Piers Morgan debate panel on who this Bubba was that trump supposedly BJ'd.

I’m guessing Trumps building must be somewhat maintained to remain open under building and code inspections.

[chr0naut]

….also “Virginia” /your democrat redacted “victim” that spent time with Trump, testified that Trump never touched her sexually nor did she see him be inappropriate with any of the girls.

Desperate much?

Virginia Giuffre is mentioned unredacted 34 times in the Epstein estate files and her testimony rose to prominence during Ghislaine Maxwell's trial, which was after Epstein's death.

However, Virginia Giuffre's story (with the now famous Prince Andrew photo) was first publicized in March 2011 by 'The Mail on Sunday', and the Epstein e-mail is also dated 2011. But to assume that they are talking about one and the same person does not necessarily follow.

If Virginia Giuffre's name was 'out there in the public domain' prior to the specific e-mail, and hadn't been redacted in other Epstein e-mails, are you sure that hers was the redacted name?

For instance, although the person with the pseudonym 'Katie Johnson/Jane Doe' did not come forward until April 2016, she allegedly was known to Epstein and Maxwell (and Trump) since she was raped in 1994, and would not be unlikely to be a topic that they may have spoken about in e-mail discussing crimes comitted and culpability.

If the name was redacted, it could have been because it was the real name of the person with the pseudonym 'Katie Johnson/Jane Doe' - or it could have been some other victim (known to the redactors but whose name is otherwise legally supressed), entirely.

The assumption that the redacted victim was Virginia Giuffre doesn't fit all the facts.

[SomeStupidName]

I specifically said I read where cities are complaining that he did not pay them for their cleaning up services for his rallies...plural...cities.

Somewhere someone said something, and you might of read about it from someone who could of heard that.

[Oldcarpy2]

Lots of rich people have played the bankrupt business cards that was not a crime it was totally legal and smart on his part.
Charity should be tax deductible low effort argument counselor.

Smart, but despicable to his debtors that he bumped.

The Art of the Deal?!!!!

[andy06shake]

Smart, but despicable to his debtors that he bumped.

The Art of the Deal?!!!!

More like "Art of The Steal" 

[CriticalStinker]

You and I both think he didn’t and it’s because we don’t have him living rent free which really screws up rational thought.
And the fact there’s nothing which hasn’t been debunked tying him to any of it, just the opposite.

You actually think if Trump had dirt tying Democrat donors and politicians to this albatross and he wouldn’t use it?
Especially considering all the dirty greasy slanderous lies and conspiracies they hatched to bankrupt him and put him (and his crew) in prison.
No way Jose.

They all have dirt on each other. Sad part is that a vast majority of it is shared guilt.

Why haven't they gone after any of them for inside trading, or making deals that enrich them? Either they're all doing it, or going after it would ruin their party too. 

Take a look at a lot of the things Trump has gone after opponents for, and his administration has done it too.

• Hillary's private emails - Current admin with signal
  
• Hunter Biden using his dads name to make money - Barron is worth 180m at least just from the crypto they launched after Trump won (we could stay on this topic alone between all his sons and Jared)
  
• Foreign influence in previous admins - Pam Bondi was a registered lobbyist for the country of Qatar making over 150k a month
  

Those are just a few, and make no mistake, there has been insider trading ahead of some of the big announcements Trump has made that shifted the markets.

They're all morally bankrupt. So the question is, where is the line. You think it's at protecting people who engaged in illegal sexual acts? I don't think so. These people have literally lined their pockets while the American people continue to lose purchasing power in their own damn country. In 2010 the median age to buy a house was 39, today it's 59. And we wonder why young people don't get married and start a family. The ramifications of this could literally cripple the country, both in population growth (or lack there of) and what do we do with today's generations when they get older.

We could sit here and argue about which side is worse until we're blue in the face. It doesn't change the fact that they both run the country into the ground whenever they get into power, or the fac that interest payments will be the number one federal expenditure in just a couple of years, maybe even one. 

All of those issues I brought up should enrage people. But how would they if people don't even care that girls were trafficked to some of these people who run the country or have incredible pull with the people who do?

[chr0naut]

Can you prove he is guilty before you just assume he is? Why are dredging all the bad shit you can find have you even tried to find good things that Trump has done or does not fit the hate and propaganda your trying to spread? Listen you can hate Trump and America all you like, your just some little proletariat in another land and doubt your not even allowed to really complain about something that is actually important to you because Trump and America are not home not your problem.

They are doing that because no adult thinks that being nice and good and kind sometimes, excuses someone from crimes they have comitted.

[cherokeetroy]

Nobody wants to see a prior, and actually good leader economically, brought down in scandal decades later.  

Yes, we do

It's disturbing seeing more and more arguments attempt to downplay these crimes

You're worried about Clinton's legacy?
what about America's legacy?

What a wonderful snapshot of the rotted moral integrity of a once great nation when Americans discovered our leaders possibly raped minors and young women but we're OK with it because economy 

[SomeStupidName]

They are doing that because no adult thinks that being nice and good and kind sometimes, excuses someone from crimes they have comitted.

He hasn't been convicted of a crime in this case, and the one he was found guilty of was issued by a kangaroo court.

[SomeStupidName]

Smart, but despicable to his debtors that he bumped.

The Art of the Deal?!!!!

And they still after that loaned him more money, so they didn't mind.