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(07-11-2025, 04:41 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Alas... we have come to an impasse...
I completely agree with you.
It might feel like an impasse, but maybe it’s more of a quiet recognition.
A place where truth has been named.
Even if there's nothing more to add right now.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(07-11-2025, 07:08 PM)andy06shake Wrote: So let's unpack this wild stew of half-baked mysticism and overconfidence.
Orgasms cause death?
That’s not science, it's puritanical fear dressed as insight.
If perfect continence cured disease and conquered death, monks would be immortal. They're not.
Humans evolved to enjoy sex because it promotes bonding and reproduction.
Claiming abstinence saves the world sounds more like a cult pitch than a global solution.
And calling others insane for doing what biology designed them to do?
That's not enlightened, it's arrogant.
Maybe focus less on judging pleasure and more on understanding actual science before making grand declarations. 
Well I can only deny your ignorance so many times before it gets redundant too soon.
I hope to be back with some more proof later.
Just another well earned jab tho, there are no monks and priests practicing Perfect Continence, as it seems to me you have unwittingly pointed out.
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(07-11-2025, 02:42 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: If substance abuse is a mental health issue and a disorder. What’s the difference between substance abuse disorder and a neurosis? Having to have a drink, a hit, hoard stuff, or needing chocolate in your safe space?
Those are two different things completely, but usually one leaves you more susceptible to the other.
But, you did not answer the question.
If you are not a mental health professional, how are you able to say that people cannot be addicted to things other than drugs?
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(07-11-2025, 02:42 PM)BeTheGoddess Wrote: Tell me you have never had sex or smoked weed without telling me you have never had sex or smoked weed.
Would no surprise me if you hit the nail on the head with that one
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(07-11-2025, 03:08 PM)andy06shake Wrote:
Well, technically, sugar is a substance, and also a drug, that quite a few of us are probably addicted to, whether or not we care to recognise the fact.
Salt, tea, coffee.
They all tick the box.
Heroin, or crack, though, that's a wee bit of a different level of addiction.
Again, and like others have proposed, I've never seen anyone suck d*ck for a bag of sugar or a pitcher of salt.
I'm not saying there aren't different forms/levels of addition. I was simply arguing that you can be addicted to more than just drugs.
If sucking someone off to get something is someone's litmus test for an addiction, I think you guys need to rethink how you view the world. But at the same time, I have known someone to suck someone off for McDonalds chicken nuggets, does that mean they are addicted to them?
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07-14-2025, 07:40 AM
This post was last modified: 07-14-2025, 07:41 AM by Kurokage. 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning."
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(07-14-2025, 07:14 AM)PorkChop96 Wrote: I'm not saying there aren't different forms/levels of addition. I was simply arguing that you can be addicted to more than just drugs.
If sucking someone off to get something is someone's litmus test for an addiction, I think you guys need to rethink how you view the world. But at the same time, I have known someone to suck someone off for McDonalds chicken nuggets, does that mean they are addicted to them?
Now that's what i call a diatribe.
Fecking chicken nuggets?
Cheap date, and then some there.
Obviously there are certainly different forms/levels of addiction, that's simply a fact.
As to your query, well, i would suggest it's unlikely that someone is truly addicted to McDonald's chicken nuggets based solely on a single act involving them.
Some kind of intense food craving, perchance?
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(07-12-2025, 02:42 PM)MonkMode Wrote: Well I can only deny your ignorance so many times before it gets redundant too soon.
I hope to be back with some more proof later.
Just another well earned jab tho, there are no monks and priests practicing Perfect Continence, as it seems to me you have unwittingly pointed out.
I dont think its my ignorance that's in question.
But i can't wait to see/read your proof?
I should also add and point out that you have proved nothing thus far.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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07-14-2025, 08:04 AM
This post was last modified: 07-14-2025, 08:06 AM by Kurokage. 
Looks like things could heat up??
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...nment.html
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Ghislaine Maxwell faces a critical 'do or die' moment tomorrow when the US government seeks to block her bid for a retrial.
Prince Andrew's close friend Maxwell, 63, who is serving 20 years for child sex offences, has appealed to the US Supreme Court in the hope it will either throw out her conviction or order a retrial.
But tomorrow lawyers for the US government will argue her appeal is 'meritless'.
Last week it was revealed the FBI has dropped any investigation into Prince Andrew – accused by the late Virginia Giuffre of underage sex charges he has denied – and any other men connected to the Jeffrey Epstein case.
It was also reported that Donald Trump's promise to release the full 'Epstein client list' had been dropped, with officials saying 'there is no client list'.
In response Elon Musk wrote on X: 'Then what is Ghislaine Maxwell in prison for?'
Maxwell is said to be 'anxious but hopeful' about tomorrow's hearing. Last night a source said: 'This is a critical moment, a do or die moment. Ghislaine believes she has multiple grounds for appeal.'
A senior DoJ source told the MoS: 'There is a powerful argument for [the Supreme Court] to take on the Maxwell case.'
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning."
Charles Tremper
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(07-14-2025, 08:04 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Looks like things could heat up??
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...nment.html
[Video: https://youtu.be/SETmqcdynYk?si=8I8kkt_ZAiNhI2aa]
I eagerly await the DOJ response to her case. I suspect she will remain under watchful eyes so that Trump can continue protecting child abusers.
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