Trump and Epstein were great buddies

[cherokeetroy]

“Closely associated” LoL

Trump was on Epstein’s plane 7 times.
Majority of the trips were from Palm Beach to NY.
Never to pedo island.
Epstein lived 1.6 miles from Trump in palm beach.
Trump used Epstein plane as a taxi to go to work.

For context, Clinton was on Epstein’s plane 26 times and lived nowhere near Epstein.

How many republicans were on his plane?

Why do you consistently attempt to force a partisan argument 
Especially against me when I've consistently said this is not a partisan issue 

Your lame tactic doesn't work on me
It makes you look desperate

[RadioKnecht]

5 releases in 10 months.
Over 50,000 files.
How many have you read?
Are you sure you know what’s even in them?
I’m only asking because it’s possible that the media/democrats/anti-trumpers, who are telling you what’s in them, may not have your best interests in mind.
Perish the thought, right.
They would never.

That's exactly my point! RELEASE EVERYTHING! EVERYTHING! 

Kill all this innuendo and mudslinging now by releasing everything! Let everything out of the closet and allow people to reach their own conclusions. 

But Trump's refusal to release everything Epstein related only feeds the fire and gets the conspiracy snowball rolling and getting bigger and bigger.

I mean, if he is truly innocent, why won't he prove it by releasing those files (instead of doing everything in his power to prevent such release)! If he doesn't, it means that he has, in fact, something to hide. You catch my drift? That's how the average Joe sees this issue.

It really does provide for bad optics.

[Oldcarpy2]

Everyone.

I concur...

Actual, justice-driven, apolitical LAW is what is required here....

We fail in investigation because of who the criminals seem to be.... say what?
We fail in prosecution because the prosecutors are driven by their party, not the law.
We fail in "justice" because we "listen" to the media 'show.'

Simple "justice" ... Crime? Investigate, prosecute.  Done...

Except when partisans are involved....

Fully industrialized media hate and partisan collusion for generations...
are we done with them yet?  Are we waiting for them to say... "OK... we're done?"

Mocking hatred and pointless character assassination "games" and PR garbage...

THAT is American politics now? 

It was not always so egregious, so WWE wrestling drama,
so "street war thuggery."   I had only ever observed this crap in third-world fly-by-night regimes,
and "tiny-town" politics...

It was not a "soap opera" UNTIL the media became "part owners" of the political commerce.

Go figure.

I stick with my suggestion.

Eject and dissolve the Republican and Democrat parties utterly.
In fact, legislate them out of existence.
They have become the tool of enemies of the state.

Start OVER.

"Oh... I'm a democrat (or republican)." 

Means you endorse, execute, and protect criminal conduct at the "national" level...
thus by definition... there is a conspiracy... and you are a conspirator.

[opinion only - -mileage may vary - void where prohibited by law.) 

Like I say, "None of the above'.

[UltraBudgie]

Eject and dissolve the Republican and Democrat parties utterly.
In fact, legislate them out of existence.
They have become the tool of enemies of the state.

Start OVER.

Nietzsche rides again. You've found your church to burn.

What's the plan, boss?

Personally I'm of the opinion that we need a cultural awakening that supersedes partisanship. Else America becomes easy pickings. But how to get there?

Oh, and not descend into barbarism along the way.

[Vermilion]

Why do you consistently attempt to force a partisan argument 
Especially against me when I've consistently said this is not a partisan issue 

Your lame tactic doesn't work on me
It makes you look desperate

You’re saying Epstein spanned both parties yet….
Despite hundreds of passengers on Epstein’s planes, no sitting or former Republican U.S. senators, representatives, or governors appear in the released Epstein flight logs as passengers on his planes.
He and his buddies were Democrat donors and operatives.
You even admitted Trump was a democrat at the time he used Epstein’s planes as a taxi to NY.
Trump is correct when he said this is a Democrat problem.

[Maxmars]

Nietzsche rides again. You've found your church to burn.

What's the plan, boss?

Personally I'm of the opinion that we need a cultural awakening that supersedes partisanship. Else America becomes easy pickings. But how to get there?

Oh, and not descend into barbarism along the way.

Granted... I lack the wisdom and finesse to present a 'bullet-proof' solution.

But it seems simply gardening.... find a weed - yank it out.

Our problems of governance often center on listening to ONLY the governors and their friends.

Of all the most heinous offenses exploiting citizens, ALL feature one or other of the "construct"
of the political cabals (political celebrities)...

NOT politics, which concerns citizens, refers to social order... and serves the people ...
not SOME of the people... ALL of them.

It is a vacuous principled approach... about the entire "label" of the role they actually play...
not the "appearance for the sake of PR" game... and the industrialized efforts to keep
citizens from their actual behaviors and clear intent.

Frankly, I am of the opinion that there is only ONE party here, with different colored T-shirts...
Just as there is only ONE bank... and we pretend they "compete."

I think the competition is to exploit and capitalize on one hand, while attacking and marginalizing  a make-believe enemy.  Who ever walks away richer, wins.

But I might simply be a full of shit [insert label of choice here] whose opinion can't have value,
because it is not supporting the "it is what it is" joy of partisanship and entrenchment... so cozy.

Well... at this point, I'm used to being uncomfortable.

[cherokeetroy]

You’re saying Epstein spanned both parties yet….
Despite hundreds of passengers on Epstein’s planes, no sitting or former Republican U.S. senators, representatives, or governors appear in the released Epstein flight logs as passengers on his planes.
He and his buddies were Democrat donors and operatives.
You even admitted Trump was a democrat at the time he used Epstein’s planes as a taxi to NY.
Trump is correct when he said this is a Democrat problem.

Peter Thiel is another one
Epstein donated to Republicans 

This is based on released information 


If Epstein is only a Democrat problem, why didn't Trump start this investigation and release ALL documents from day 1?

[UltraBudgie]

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Peter Thiel is another one
Epstein donated to Republicans 

This is based on released information 


If Epstein is only a Democrat problem, why didn't Trump start this investigation and release ALL documents from day 1?

You know that's been known for years now, right? Here is the page from the unredacted contact book:
https://archive.org/details/jeffrey-epst...1/mode/2up



I admit I didn't watch the video (oh I see you don't link to one); is there anything in there other than the fact that Epstein had his contact info?

[Vermilion]

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Peter Thiel is another one
Epstein donated to Republicans 

This is based on released information 


If Epstein is only a Democrat problem, why didn't Trump start this investigation and release ALL documents from day 1?

“Black book” LoL
It’s a contact list of a billionaire.
There’s are gardeners in there too.

Was Paulson on Epstein’s plane?
No.

Day one release?
No.
February 27th was the first batch of releases.

Witch hunting went out of style hundreds of years ago.
You sure you want to bring it back?

[cherokeetroy]

You know that's been known for years now, right? Here is the page from the unredacted contact book:
https://archive.org/details/jeffrey-epst...1/mode/2up

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I admit I didn't watch the video (oh I see you don't link to one); is there anything in there other than the fact that Epstein had his contact info?

Apparently it wasn't known by your friend, Vermilion 

Refreshers are good!