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(11-13-2025, 07:31 AM)dandandat Wrote: It is extremely sad that this sums up the two major parties in our country while there are detrimental issues the government should be addressing.
I don't necessarily disagree.
But that won't make the questions the people demand answers to disappear.
Quite a few of such amount to Trump's own base.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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Nothing yet about Andrew testifying.
I'm all for giving him a new title - replace the letters "Pri" in his former title with the letters"No".
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(11-13-2025, 07:59 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Timing doesn't disprove guilt WallFlowerActive.
And yet the democrats pushed the fake golden shower thing in conjunction with the FBI and doing so, ignore actual supposed crimes? Dream on buddy.
Do you believe in the Epstein blackmail angle at all? Was Trump blackmailed into running for president? Or Trump went against being blackmailed to run for president? And can you really trust the word of a person committing blackmail.
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(11-13-2025, 08:19 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: And yet the democrats pushed the fake golden shower thing in conjunction with the FBI and doing so, ignore actual supposed crimes? Dream on buddy.
Do you believe in the Epstein blackmail angle at all? Was Trump blackmailed into running for president? Or Trump went against being blackmailed to run for president? And can you really trust the word of a person committing blackmail.
I was under the impression the "golden shower" claim came from the "Steele dossier."
Not Democrats or the FBI.
It was raw intel, never a proven fact.
Additionally, it was never the basis of any charges.
As far as im aware, Epstein's blackmail theories remain unproven.
Distrusting a supposed blackmailer's word is correct.
But you can't then turn around use that same unverified narrative.
To excuse or explain Trump's actions.
That's circular logic, not evidence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(11-13-2025, 08:17 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Nothing yet about Andrew testifying.
I'm all for giving him a new title - replace the letters "Pri" in his former title with the letters"No".
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(11-13-2025, 08:27 AM)andy06shake Wrote: I was under the impression the "golden shower" claim came from the "Steele dossier."
Not Democrats or the FBI.
It was raw intel, never a proven fact.
If I remember correctly, it was used as evidence presented to a FISA court to enable the creation of a Clinton-aligned FBI cell stovepiped to the NSA's two-hop collection apparatus, with complete access to Trump's campaign activities. They kicked intel up to the Obama team, who got in quite a bit of trouble with unmask requests for it. You can read the details in the footnotes of FISA courts decisions at the time, it didn't really make the mainstream news to the extent it should have, for some reason.
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(11-13-2025, 01:38 AM)Vermilion Wrote: So the Democrats failed miserably with their “Trump is starving children and killing grandma with health insurance premiums” propaganda blitz, so now they are feebly trying to resurrect their “Trump is an Epstein pedophile” slander.
They have no solutions. They have no ideas. They don’t even know what America’s actual problems are.
All they have are propaganda, lies and defamation.
They do this for two reasons and two reasons only:
1. They know their brainwashed acolytes will lap it up like kittens to a bowl of milk.
2. They have nothing else, only desperation to hold onto their shrinking power.
That's not true
This isn't a sudden pivot caused by Democrats
Massie was gathering signatures for months and right when he got the final one needed for a vote, the House went into recess. Everyone knew the Epstein vote would be top priority the moment the House reconvened
"1. They know their brainwashed acolytes will lap it up like kittens to a bowl of milk.
2. They have nothing else, only desperation to hold onto their shrinking power."
You could just as easily be describing MAGA which is barely hanging on by a thread at the moment
Remember 6 months ago you claimed the Epstein stuff would fade from memory and be completely forgotten within a week or two
I think Trump believed that, too
Big mistake
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(11-13-2025, 09:23 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: If I remember correctly, it was used as evidence presented to a FISA court to enable the creation of a Clinton-aligned FBI cell stovepiped to the NSA's two-hop collection apparatus, with complete access to Trump's campaign activities. They kicked intel up to the Obama team, who got in quite a bit of trouble with unmask requests for it. You can read the details in the footnotes of FISA courts decisions at the time, it didn't really make the mainstream news to the extent it should have, for some reason.
The Epstein situation certainly does not have that problem.
That spotlights burning bright.
And for good reason.
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(11-13-2025, 03:33 AM)Truthhurts Wrote: Month after month, week after week, and day after day, Trump is losing support from both independent voters and Republicans. So you all continue to dwell in a fantasy world where he remains popular.
The WH is in chaos this morning
Trump hasn't posted in 18 hours
He refuses to take questions
His support is collapsing
This country is going to go through some things
To repeat the tired, old cliche
Buckle up
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"The walls are closing in! We've got him this time guys! Buckle up!"
It really must do strange things to one's sanity to repeat this cycle 40 times over the past 10 years, with the same amount of enthusiasm and expectation each time. Any drop of skepticism or cynicism will get you torn to shreds by your fellow liberals.
Even Pavlov wasn't that cruel.
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