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(08-19-2025, 08:25 AM)andy06shake Wrote: What does any of that have to do with appeasing a tyrant?

It is about conflict resolution. Finding a way that those living there can either coexist or kick off another world war with how long this fighting has been going on for.

There is more to the ground that Russia is holding than a case of Putin Derangement Syndrome.
(08-19-2025, 08:56 AM)Kwaka Wrote: It is about conflict resolution. Finding a way that those living there can either coexist or kick off another world war with how long this fighting has been going on for.

There is more to the ground that Russia is holding than a case of Putin Derangement Syndrome.

Seems to me saying it's just "about conflict resolution" kind of ignores the fact that Russia invaded a sovereign country without provocation. 

And the idea that Ukrainians should just coexist with occupiers ignores basic rights.

They're defending their homes and families ffs.

Ukraine isn't attacking Russia, it's the other way araound. 

Peace comes from stopping aggression, not appeasing it.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(08-19-2025, 08:44 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Ukraine has a population of over 40 million, 


And Russia has over 100 million more.  Where Ukraine has large portions of population that have left and aren’t going back.  Where Ukraine is also having to go increasingly more and more after draft dodgers.  Russia can play the long game. The Ukraine can’t match Russias manpower.  Where NK is willing to feed troops to Russia.  All for two corrupt governments, people are being sent to the meat grinder while arms dealers get richer.
(08-19-2025, 09:06 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: And Russia has over 100 million more.  Where Ukraine has large portions of population that have left and aren’t going back.  Where Ukraine is also having to go increasingly more and more after draft dodgers.  Russia can play the long game. The Ukraine can’t match Russias manpower.  Where NK is willing to feed troops to Russia.  All for two corrupt governments, people are being sent to the meat grinder while arms dealers get richer.

In this day and age, having more people doesn't automatically win a war.

Modern warfare is about tech, training, and strategy, not just numbers.

Ukraine still has motivated troops, international support, not to mention modern weapons, while Russia faces low morale and logistics problems.

Anyhoo, need to go play in the real world for a spell, such is life.

Have fun DI.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(08-19-2025, 08:49 AM)andy06shake Wrote:
(08-19-2025, 08:49 AM)andy06shake Wrote: I dont think standing up against tyrants or dictator scum will even go out of fashion.
 
And Putin seems to have stubbed more than his toe trying to take Ukraine, so..............

The comparison is self-evident. 

Not to mention the fact that Putin's ""special military operation"" is reminiscent of Operation Barbarossa in reverse.  Saint2

I dont think standing up against tyrants or dictator scum will even go out of fashion.
 
And Putin seems to have stubbed more than his toe trying to take Ukraine, so..............

The comparison is self-evident. 

Not to mention the fact that Putin's ""special military operation"" is reminiscent of Operation Barbarossa in reverse.  Saint2


There it is.

Continuing with the 2 bit outdated British propaganda. Where you have no other material except compare everything being Nazi or blaming Hitler.

The British have literally the most irrelevant leader in Europe right now Lol  It’s hilariously bad

Yet you want to talk about USA and Trump lol. Who clearly is the top dawg here.

Speaking of Russia, I’d say they’re doing ok. 140 mil vs a collective group of countries with a total population of about a billion. 

Nice try.
(08-19-2025, 08:44 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Ukraine has a population of over 40 million,  


Had if this AI generated graph is accurate.

[Image: IMG_0868.jpeg]
 Not a good dip in population
(08-19-2025, 09:09 AM)andy06shake Wrote: In this day and age, having more people doesn't automatically win a war.

It takes manpower to hold and control land.  Sorry.
(08-19-2025, 08:56 AM)Kwaka Wrote: It is about conflict resolution. 


The resolution to this 'conflict' is for Russia to respect the sovereignty of Ukraine and withdraw, it's that simple.  Wink2



 
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(08-19-2025, 09:23 AM)Kurokage Wrote: The resolution to this 'conflict' is for Russia to respect the sovereignty of Ukraine and withdraw, it's that simple.  Wink2



Let me know how that’s working out for the men still dying.
(08-19-2025, 09:11 AM)Imhere Wrote: There it is.

Continuing with the 2 bit outdated British propaganda. Where you have no other material except compare everything being Nazi or blaming Hitler.

Outdated British propaganda? are you also maybe a supporter of another dictator who tried to wipe out a certain group of people??

You should maybe take a history lesson. Twice in Europe a war has started that ended up engulfing the globe. The 2nd one was about a tyrant invading and killing people of a sovereign nation, if you're to blind in your support for old Vlad' to recognised the similarities, then more fool you.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
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