Trump Announces Alaska Summit with Putin

[putnam6]

That explanation was possibly the most eye opening one I have seen brought up.
True or not can be directed at all parties involved and a just observation.

Which one the red and blue pill quote or the barrister one...

Looking forward to reading the NRO.pdf too, he sounds like he was a helluva man.

Much respect, and yes, we need to take better care of our elderly; we won't ever have such a professional and prolific generation ever again.

[RichardHurt]

I'm much more a conservative kinda guy. Think Bible belt.
And good luck with that!

[Imhere]

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1957595637618299235

Trump noble peace prize incoming

Did anyone even notice Starmer at the meeting? poor guy

[andy06shake]

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1957595637618299235

Trump noble peace prize incoming

Did anyone even notice Starmer at the meeting? poor guy

Do you get nominated for Nobel Peace prizes for rolling out the red carpet to war criminals like Putin? 

I'll give you Starmer, it did look like his Herpes was playing up.

[Kurokage]

Sure .. he wants more .. but that doesn't change the fact that he has already won.  He has the Ukrainian land and anything short of all of Europe going to WWIII for it will not change that fact.

Are you prepared to send your countries troops and munitions and billions of $$$ to Ukraine to fight Putin?  Your country and all the other European countries?  Cuz' that's what it'll take for Putin to give up what he has taken.  Is it worth it?  Only you can answer that.

And you and I both know that even if you and the other European countries do that, he'll still go for more.  He doesn't care about WWIII.  He just wants the land.

What is going on now can't continue.   
Europe and USA pumping billions into Ukraine for an unending war that can't be won.
Unless you want to go all in and escalate it.  Do you?  Just asking.

So you think we all should just appease Putin? Let countries like China know that the west (mainly Trump) will fold given any serious situation to face? Trump won't even place any serious sanctions on Russia and those using it's not so secret, secret cargo ships.

In the 1940s, Great Britain stood pretty much alone against a tyrannical leader, whilst America was happy to continue making money of all sides. This time they have a chance to show the World what a real super power does, instead they want to set an example by turning a blind eye and giving a round of applause to a tyrannical leader.

[andy06shake]

So you think we all should just appease Putin? Let countries like China know that the west (mainly Trump) will fold given any serious situation to face? Trump won't even place any serious sanctions on Russia and those using it's not so secret, secret cargo ships.

In the 1940s, Great Britain stood pretty alone alone against a tyrannical leader, whilst America was happy to continue making money of all sides. This time they have a chance to show the World what a real super power does, instead they want to set an example by turning a blind eye and giving a round of applause to a tyrannical leader.

Yeah, exactly.

If the West just shrugs and lets Putin do whatever he wants, it sends a clear signal to China and every other authoritarian regime on the planet.

History has already shown us what happens when bullies aren't checked early.

[Kurokage]

Yeah, exactly.

If the West just shrugs and lets Putin do whatever he wants, it sends a clear signal to China and every other authoritarian regime on the planet.

History has already shown us what happens when bullies aren't checked early.

That's the problem isn't it Andy.

Some Americans want to sit back and have nothing to do with it, maybe they should wait till another pearl harbour before they act? That's been done before, and it was called WW2.
For some, it's all about the $$, but what they're also forgetting is, by appeasing Putin he could just regroup and do this all over again, costing much more money than sorting this now.
I think we all want a peaceful out come on here, but a lot of us don't think it should on Putin's demands.

America weren't given the role of 'world police', they happily took it, but now seem to think that role is unfair and too costly. It was their decision to seize that position, just deciding they're done with it, and no longer want it, leads to many 'world' problems down the line.

[andy06shake]

That's the problem isn't it Andy.

Some Americans want to sit back and have nothing to do with it, maybe they should wait till another pearl harbour before they act? That's been done before, and it was called WW2.
For some, it's all about the $$, but what they're also forgetting is, by appeasing Putin he could just regroup and do this all over again, costing much more money than sorting this now.
I think we all want a peaceful out come on here, but a lot of us don't think it should on Putin's demands.

America weren't given the role of 'world police', they happily took it, but now seem to think that role is unfair and too costly. It was their decision to seize that position, just deciding they're done with it, and no longer want it, leads to many 'world' problems down the line.

That's the real danger.

If Putin's allowed to walk away with land and gains, he'll simply lick his wounds.

Rebuild, rearm, and try again when the timing feels right.

That's his whole playbook.

Test the waters, grab what he can, then regroup.

He's done it before in Georgia, Crimea, and now in Ukraine.

Appeasement doesn't stop him, it fuels him.

[Ignorant]

The role of world police is everything but costly for Americans. This world order was created by Americans not out of the goodness of their hearts, but for their economic benefit.

1) Dollars leave the US because they import more than they export
2) Dollars end up in foreign central banks
3) Foreign central banks loan these dollars back to the US by buying government bonds
4) The government uses these dollars to fund huge military spending
5) Dollars find their way back to Americans through the MIC

And round and round the circle goes. Meanwhile step (4) has the nice side effect that America has a huge military presence and can use it to influence geopolitics.

People like Trump who are claiming this world order is somehow bad for the US don't understand economics. Yet they control the levers of American economic and foreign policy. To the benefit of whom, you might ask? The people who intend to plunder America for all it's worth while it falls from grace and loses its position as economic hegemon. Certainly not to the benefit of Trump's supporters, who are disproportionately poor and affected by inflation and economic downturns.

Blissfully ignorant, they cheered as leopards ate their face.

[Kwaka]