Trump Announces Alaska Summit with Putin

[Imhere]

Trump has announced a meeting with President Putin next Friday, August 15, in Alaska to discuss ending the war in Ukraine.

Reporters asked Trump if Zelensky must meet with Putin before his own meeting with Putin. Trump responded, “No.”

Should be good.



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[Kurokage]

It's a good start but without Ukrainian representation how they do they get to a mutual cease fire?  Putin is just going to lay down his demands which seems like capitulation to me??

[putnam6]

It's a good start but without Ukrainian representation how they do they get to a mutual cease fire?  Putin is just going to lay down his demands which seems like capitulation to me??

It's just negotiations and stalling,

But Russia has the upper hand; they have always had the upper hand. 

So one has to listen to thier demands and then discuss those demands with Ukraine in private,

There's no reason to force fighting dogs together when they are still jacked up. 

Trump will discuss with Zelensky, and then we will see what the next step will be.

[andy06shake]

Trump's already said Russia and Ukraine will be swapping occupied territory.

He might want to have run that one past Zelenskyy.

Because he's saying that's not happening.

And that no deal that involves giving up Ukrainian territory is acceptable.

To be honest, i think Trump has about as much chance of bringing peace to the table as he has of making Canada the 51st state. 

And i dont think Putin wants peace, no matter what he claims.

Because his actions tell a very different story.

Peace for Putin equates to Ukraine submitting to Russian terms, not mutual compromise.

And until that changes, nothing can happen in good faith.

[andy06shake]

It's just negotiations and stalling,

But Russia has the upper hand; they have always had the upper hand. 

So one has to listen to thier demands and then discuss those demands with Ukraine in private,

There's no reason to force fighting dogs together when they are still jacked up. 

Trump will discuss with Zelensky, and then we will see what the next step will be.

I suggest that's exactly what they should do, put them in a room together and lock the door.
 
Two men enter, one man leaves.

Problem solved.

Of course, that's just wishful thinking.

It would probably do little more than fuel the hate.

But here's the kicker, if these bastards in power were actually forced to fight for the ludicrous causes they expect others to die for, they might think twice before starting wars and causing chaos.

[Kurokage]

It's just negotiations and stalling,

But Russia has the upper hand; they have always had the upper hand. 

So one has to listen to thier demands and then discuss those demands with Ukraine in private,

There's no reason to force fighting dogs together when they are still jacked up. 

Trump will discuss with Zelensky, and then we will see what the next step will be.

I wouldn't say they have the upper hand except for Trump seeming to do want Putin wants and capitulate, showing the world that invading a foreign nation gets you land and a hand shake from Trump. 
Ukraine slowed Russian invasion to a crawl for nearly 3 years with weapons from western countries, with Russian losses and deaths being a massive embarrassment for what use to be a 'super power' 

With Trump first speaking with Putin and listening to his demands, they can make Ukraine out to be the 'bad guy' who won't take a peace deal. Trump will then bad mouth Zelensky just like before. Hey, Maybe I'm wrong and Trump will at least get a cease fire but I think Putin isn't really interested unless his demands are meet.
Zelensky shouldn't offer up Ukraine's sovereign territory unless his people agree.

[RichardHurt]

Trump has proven time and time again to be a bitch when it comes to the Russkraine issue. How many times now has he said one thing and yet another happens? He is a useful idiot to Putin and he keeps doing it. So I will not be holding my breath on this. I can guarantee that come Monday the date will change or some other shit will happen. 
I just don't fucking trust a damn thing Trump says or anyone in this or any government. They are all pedo trafficking boot licking ass hats that are worth as much as a 2$ buffet. Fuck em

[Vermilion]

It's just negotiations and stalling,

But Russia has the upper hand; they have always had the upper hand. 

So one has to listen to thier demands and then discuss those demands with Ukraine in private,

There's no reason to force fighting dogs together when they are still jacked up. 

Trump will discuss with Zelensky, and then we will see what the next step will be.

Russia does not have the upper hand.
How you deal with Russia is you let them think they have the upper hand.
Dealing with Zelensky is a bit more complicated as he is just a corrupt moron actor and the people finally waking up to that fact.

[putnam6]

I suggest that's exactly what they should do, put them in a room together and lock the door.
 
Two men enter, one man leaves.

Problem solved.

Of course, that's just wishful thinking.

It would probably do little more than fuel the hate.

But here's the kicker, if these bastards in power were actually forced to fight for the ludicrous causes they expect others to die for, they might think twice before starting wars and causing chaos.

Yeah, Master Blaster, this isn't Thunder Dome, then all the steroid jacked up azzholes would rule the world. We'd be ruled by different azzholes, with questionable economic experience

Instead of analyzing and believing we know exactly what will happen.

I just believe the situation is more fluid and can go in several directions, Russian leaders never back off thier statements publicly, the last time they came close was Gorbachov, and significant parts of the Duma loathe Gorbachov to this day, including Putin included. 

Im of the opinion you listen and continue to supply Ukraine, and increase sanctions 

IF the terms aren't satisfactory, if that includes India and others like China, so be it.

We have to remember, though, while India is a quasi-ally, China is the opposite, and unfortunately, we have to make some concessions there. 

Squeeze India to stop financing Russia in the war in Ukraine, all the while ignoring Russia's demands 

After all that was/is the original plan and when you get down to it, this is a battle of economic systems, and we have already commited so much, 

Continue to supply Ukraine and apply economic pressure.

If Zelensky wants to continue, he will likely have to make concessions elsewhere to continue to get military aid from the US, and be prepared to continue to get hit by Russian attacks and try and figure out how to use a drone to hit the Kremlin.

[Kurokage]

Im of the opinion you listen and continue to supply Ukraine, and increase sanctions 

IF the terms aren't satisfactory, if that includes India and others like China, so be it.

We have to remember, though, while India is a quasi-ally, China is the opposite, and unfortunately, we have to make some concessions there. 

Squeeze India to stop financing Russia in the war in Ukraine, all the while ignoring Russia's demands 

After all that was/is the original plan and when you get down to it, this is a battle of economic systems, and we have already commited so much, 

Continue to supply Ukraine and apply economic pressure.

If Zelensky wants to continue, he will likely have to make concessions elsewhere to continue to get military aid from the US, and be prepared to continue to get hit by Russian attacks and try and figure out how to use a drone to hit the Kremlin.

I agree, but Trump allowing Putin to lay down demands in a face to face meeting before acknowledging Ukraine's needs in a peace talk, is playing right into Putin's hands.