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(10-14-2025, 12:23 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Would you feel the same about a child born with a physical deformity?  Would you support that that child have surgery to correct it in order to have a better life?

My belief is we are born who we are -- who our brains tell us we are.  I say raise a kid from the inside out.  Let that kid "tell" you who they are.  Accept them for who they are.  Little kids do not need to be indoctrinated from birth. I'm not saying let them be unruly brats -- that's down a different road.

Puberty Blockers -- should give you a clue in the name "Puberty".



Do you let them choose their own bedtime and what they eat too.
Do you let them “tell you” about gun safety when they’re cleaning their shotgun too?
(10-14-2025, 01:02 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Do you let them choose their own bedtime and what they eat too.
Do you let them “tell you” about gun safety when they’re cleaning their shotgun too?

You really think that's what I'm talking about?
(10-14-2025, 12:39 PM)Moon68 Wrote: What a fallacious argument. If little Johnny at 5 years old says he wants to be a pirate is the parent supposed to say, "Ok, let's get a leg cut off for a peg and pop out an eye"? No, that would be abuse. But if Johnny said he wants to be Susie then, by golly, we should cut off his dick and pump him full of hormones in levels that aren't meant for a growing boy. Still fucking abuse.

You really think that's what I'm talking about?
(10-14-2025, 01:20 PM)ANNEE Wrote: You really think that's what I'm talking about?



I’m surprised you even know.

This is about truth and love.
Telling kids the truth is love.

Kids are not mature enough to know the truth.
That’s where parents come in.

Trans is a social contagion and parents need to teach kids the truth.

If a grown up wants to change their gender, they have a mental disorder.
If a kid wants to change their gender, their parents have a mental disorder.
(10-14-2025, 01:34 PM)Vermilion Wrote: I’m surprised you even know.

This is about truth and love.
Telling kids the truth is love.

Kids are not mature enough to know the truth.
That’s where parents come in.

Trans is a social contagion and parents need to teach kids the truth.

If a grown up wants to change their gender, they have a mental disorder.
If a kid wants to change their gender, their parents have a mental disorder.

How much experience have you had in raising a gender questioning child?
(10-14-2025, 01:47 PM)ANNEE Wrote: How much experience have you had in raising a gender questioning child?



I don’t think people who have trans kids are an authority on anything, just the opposite.
They have a mental disorder.

Marcia Gay Harden and Megan Fox both have 3 trans kids.
It’s a social contagion.

Good news is the fad is fading and less and less kids are going down that path.

https://unherd.com/newsroom/why-are-fewe...-as-trans/
Beware here...

Children are not objects...

they are young people.

No matter how hard you beat a child...
a little... a lot... it's the adult that carries the scar.

Love is the only thing that keeps us from destroying ourselves over things like this.
"gender questioning" is a personal internal affair... it is resolved by the individual who lives
with whatever decision he or she makes....
Mistakes will be made.

Characterizing anything outside the mind of the child is a fool's gambit.

Individuals start out as individuals...
Then"society meddles" because the parents let them.

Even when we find ourselves frustrated and threatened by anyone else's choices, we have to accept that some decisions are their to make...

I said SOME.  "Parenting" is hard.
(That's why institutions "pretend" they can do it.)

Maybe some could... if they weren't managed by damaged human baggage, perpetually in denial over their own abject failures.

Anti-trans sentiment appear to me to be legacy hatred over homosexuality in general.

Most of us were to some degree indoctrinated to socially persecute these individuals... and we are slowly (perhaps too slowly for some) absorbing a bitter pill....

How a person feels about themselves... it's none of your business really.

But it is bolstered by another bitter pill the activist hate...

"It's not only your world... everyone, every social group, must negotiate it's presence with the world.
Some can simply glide in... others slowly change biases, 'walk.... don't run'... (a good example being the measured non-violence of the feminist movement of old.)

You can't FORCE lasting social change... EVER... it has NEVER WORKED - EVER - in history.
(10-14-2025, 01:58 PM)Vermilion Wrote: I don’t think people who have trans kids are an authority on anything, just the opposite.
They have a mental disorder.

Marcia Gay Harden and Megan Fox both have 3 trans kids.
It’s a social contagion.

Good news is the fad is fading and less and less kids are going down that path.

https://unherd.com/newsroom/why-are-fewe...-as-trans/

Eric Kaufmann is a Canadian conservative academic and anti-transgender activist based in the United Kingdom.

Kaufmann has prepared reports on sex and gender minorities for anti-trans publications Quillette and City Journal, as well as for anti-trans extremist Richard Hanania via Center for the Study of Partisanship and Ideology.

https://www.transgendermap.com/issues/to...-kaufmann/
(10-14-2025, 03:14 PM)ANNEE Wrote: https://www.transgendermap.com/issues/to...-kaufmann/

Transgender Map.

What a great site for pointing out who the ideologues are.

Quote:Some wonder if their age is a problem. They wonder if they are too old or too young to transition.

People have transitioned at almost every age, from under 10 years old to over 90 years old. It is never too early or too late. Your journey is unique. This site has help for young people and for adults.
https://www.transgendermap.com/welcome/f...g-readers/

(emphasis added)


Anyway, without diving into deconstructing this person's background, isn't "person who writes articles critical of transgenderism has opinions critical of transgenderism that are published by outlets critical of transgenderism so they are a biased source" a sort of self-referential character smear? It says nothing about the content or quality of the opinions or information presented.
(10-14-2025, 03:32 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Transgender Map.

What a great site for pointing out who the ideologues are.

https://www.transgendermap.com/welcome/f...g-readers/

(emphasis added)


Anyway, without diving into deconstructing this person's background, isn't "person who writes articles critical of transgenderism has opinions critical of transgenderism that are published by outlets critical of transgenderism so they are a biased source" a sort of self-referential character smear? It says nothing about the content or quality of the opinions or information presented.

Yes.

I found his research very interesting. (several sites)

Then I looked further.