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09-20-2025, 12:38 PM
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Things that make you go hmmm.
This move seemed long overdue... what's the reasoning behind this at this moment in time
and is there, is there an American chapter?
Today, lesbian gay and bisexual people have a new global organization
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09-20-2025, 01:01 PM
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(09-20-2025, 12:38 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Today, lesbian gay and bisexual people have a new global organization
Such a weird take. They say they "don't subscribe to gender ideology".
So then they think that transpeople are gay men and lesbian women who are cross-dressing.
Then wouldn't they want those gay and lesbian individuals to be able to find representation in their organization?
You can't eat your cake and have it too, as Uncle Ted (PBUH) would have said.
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(09-20-2025, 12:38 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Things that make you go hmmm.
This move seemed long overdue... what's the reasoning behind this at this moment in time
and is there, is there an American chapter?
Today, lesbian gay and bisexual people have a new global organization
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LGB International
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This is a declaration of independence. Today, lesbian gay and bisexual people have a new global organisation Learn more at https://lgbinternational.org #LGBInternational
Reddit says:
Quote:I think the general situation is still very positive within the community at large. The LGB-drop-the-T weirdos are not grassroots movements, they're right-wing-funded astroturf campaigns. While there are unquestionably exceptions, the queer movement as a whole is still very much inclusive of trans people. I have never encountered anti-trans hostility in real-world queer spaces. Try not to get too wrapped up in the malicious actors trying to convince you otherwise.
I alienate some of my friends if I drop the T.
Plus "LGB drop the T" came out of nowhere around 2020 or so..
Its not fairly representative of the LGBT community. It feels more like an outside attempt to regulate LGBT before The T.
Like lets look at screen-shots.
Stories about detransitioning, links to Jill Magazine. Almost all with ties to Republican lobbies.
Quote:specific lesbian print publication called Jill Magazine has received support from a super PAC with ties to the Republican Party.
I would love to support THESE connected groups, but its like they are purposely satinizing the LGBT of gender politics until its comfortable to 1990 through 2015 standards again.
Might as well say: "This is the acceptable LGB expression we'll allow, NO T!"
Because Im way more The LGB keep the T, I made this meme for my Lavender Thread, but feel has application beyond. And feel validates the social condition.
* Neither were intersex. XY on left, XX on right.
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09-20-2025, 03:09 PM
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(09-20-2025, 01:01 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Such a weird take. They say they "don't subscribe to gender ideology".
So then they think that transpeople are gay men and lesbian women who are cross-dressing.
Then wouldn't they want those gay and lesbian individuals to be able to find representation in their organization?
You can't eat your cake and have it too, as Uncle Ted (PBUH) would have said.
it all looks fairly new only 6500 followers on X.com, and I haven't found an American chapter...
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On September 20, 2025, gender-critical gay rights groups launched a new global organization called LGB International. The new group is a coalition of LGB organizations that explicitly distances itself from groups that include transgender people. Key details about LGB International: Motivation: The organization was formed by lesbian, gay, and bisexual activists who believe that traditional LGBTQ+ organizations have increasingly focused on transgender issues at the expense of gay and lesbian rights. Founder: The group was founded by members of the UK-based LGB Alliance, an organization formed after a split from Stonewall, Europe's largest LGBTQ+ rights group. Beliefs: It is made up of "gender-critical" individuals who state they aim to counteract the "confusion between sex and gender". Mission: LGB International was created to declare its "independence from the LGBTQIA+ establishment". The launch occurred during a period of increasing anti-transgender sentiment and legislative efforts in various countries.
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(09-20-2025, 01:36 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Reddit says:
I alienate some of my friends if I drop the T.
Plus "LGB drop the T" came out of nowhere around 2020 or so..
Its not fairly representative of the LGBT community. It feels more like an outside attempt to regulate LGBT before The T.
Like lets look at screen-shots.
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...ternet.jpg]
Stories about detransitioning, links to Jill Magazine. Almost all with ties to Republican lobbies.
I would love to support THESE connected groups, but its like they are purposely satinizing the LGBT of gender politics until its comfortable to 1990 through 2015 standards again.
Might as well say: "This is the acceptable LGB expression we'll allow, NO T!"
And to the purposes of The LGB keep the T, I made this meme for my Lavender Thread, but feel has application beyond.
* Neither were intersex. XY on left, XX on right.
Just asking questions so the US Alliance is associated with LBG International?
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I analyze the "gay press" on the daily: PinkNews, LGBTQ Nation, LA & Washington Blade, Holy Bullies and Headless Monsters and sometimes The Advocate and a few others with one of my favorites probably being Erin in the Morning
All have condemned efforts and organizations that want to remove the T.
Trans and gender non-conforming people have always been an instrumental part of the gay rights movement. Those now in the drop the T factions are just cowards and chickenshits for not standing up for those who have stood up for them.
Too bad they also think that distancing themselves from the T will somehow save them without realizing their heads and lives are next on the chopping block.
Fools.
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(09-20-2025, 03:51 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Just asking questions so the US Alliance is associated with LBG International?
Its bullshit.
Its not a natural advocacy group.
And right now it might as well be considered: "State Approved LGB T".
Its built on transphobia and exclusion more than advocacy and inclusion.
Following the funding its always this rabbit hole:
Quote:Reports indicate that groups advocating for the exclusion of transgender people from the LGBTQ+ community, sometimes called "LGB drop the T," are largely funded by conservative and Republican sources rather than being grassroots movements. While some individuals identify with this viewpoint, major organizations pushing this agenda are often described as having financial and political backing from the right.
Its like if interests founded a group called "Liberals Against The Global Warming Scam" and it was funded by a lobbying group of ExxonMobil money.
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(09-20-2025, 06:47 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Its bullshit.
Speaking of which, check out the new Heritage Foundation initiative!
It's called "TIVE" -- Transgender Ideology-Inspired Violent Extremism.
You know if they have a catchy acronym, gears are already in motion.
How do you spot a TIVE? Pay attention to their language, for starters:
I can't blame some LGB for sensing which way the wind is blowing and wanting no part of it. Of course, I suppose they're next. Unless they become Lincoln Log Republicans?
Read the whole thing: https://x.com/ItsYourGov/status/1968802472111083949
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(09-20-2025, 07:43 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Speaking of which, check out the new Heritage Foundation initiative!
It's called "TIVE" -- Transgender Ideology-Inspired Violent Extremism.
You know if they have a catchy acronym, gears are already in motion.
How do you spot a TIVE? Pay attention to their language, for starters:
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...AAWw9l.jpg]
I can't blame some LGB for sensing which way the wind is blowing and wanting no part of it. Of course, I suppose they're next. Unless they become Lincoln Log Republicans?
Read the whole thing: https://x.com/ItsYourGov/status/1968802472111083949
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...AEg_NH.jpg]
Its like...
"We could handle the lesbians and gays, marriage, and even service, but we draw the line at transsexuals because its just too far and uncomfortable for us! We'd rather fund a version of LGB we can tolerate."
Priorities!
I think those preferring the "LGB" just want to avoid the stigma. Dont want to be affiliated with the scarlet letter. Its fear more than anything. They dont want to have to socially defend more than they need too.
Like here. You get far better treatment if you do the "Gays Against Groomers" thing. Its like the acceptable LGB with no T variation that doesnt trigger deep-seated whatever.
We must be mindful the discomfort transitioned people cause, afterall!
To me, I see too much of a spectrum between butch lesbian and transmasculine or flamboyance and transfeminine to exclude the T for others feels.
Its a fucking brainworm of biblical proportions. The transphobic Tecate Gusano keeping everyone obsessed by the discomfort.
This is more divide and conquer shit. Creating Christ-Approved Rainbows in a manner of speaking.
And at that point, you kinda WANT to self apply the pro-trans scarlet letter for the hell of it. Not like its a crime.
"I support ideas of in utero hormones and the social condition of gender being way beyond biology!"
"BURN THE WITCH and be sure to call it a warlock, even though we dont know for certain."
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09-20-2025, 09:39 PM
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(09-20-2025, 08:21 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Its like...
"We could handle the lesbians and gays, marriage, and even service, but we draw the line at transsexuals because its just too far and disturbing dor us! We'd rather fund a version of LGB we can tolerate more."
Priorities!
Not to pull a yeah but....
but
That's kind of how all minorities' timeline trajectories to normalization are; it's one of the issues Dave Chappelle brings up.
There are different dynamics and ratios involved, when its a higher percentage compared to lower ones
Basically, in a free society of millions of diverse people can only force-feed so much minority acceptance in one sitting, and then you have the inevitable backlash, pendulum swing, etc.
not saying it's right or wrong, it just is...
It's just part of the human condition, no doubt somewhat based on ancient tribalism.
We rarely evolve directly from point A to B, we progress in starts, stops, and sometimes reverse, then progress slowly marches on
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