Tinfoilers were right all along!!!

[IgnorantGod]

For sure, it could be a merging of the 'all' and the physical reality we find ourselves in or of our own making. But since everything seems to be in motion at different frequencies and perhaps therein lies the different temporal fluctuations we may experience (?), then would it stand to reason that any outside elements or forces entering our energy/matter bodies would effect changes in both forms?

Are we poisoning ourselves into different realities or different perceived realities?

If I try to tie up the topics in the thread, I'd say that some EMFs can provoke changes in the body and brain that makes consciousness enter in an altered state. Often time, such state blurs the boundaries of the 'self', which would be what allows the 'stage' for a trickster's 'act', flaring hormones up to the brain for, I'd assume, self-preservation purpose.

As for your last statement, would you assume dream realities to be a 'poison'? I can't speak for others, but I have an increasingly harder time to differentiate 'dreams' from 'memories' as time goes 'forward'.

[quintessentone]

If I try to tie up the topics in the thread, I'd say that some EMFs can provoke changes in the body and brain that makes consciousness enter in an altered state. Often time, such state blurs the boundaries of the 'self', which would be what allows the 'stage' for a trickster's 'act', flaring hormones up to the brain for, I'd assume, self-preservation purpose.

As for your last statement, would you assume dream realities to be a 'poison'? I can't speak for others, but I have an increasingly harder time to differentiate 'dreams' from 'memories' as time goes 'forward'.

I too have dream/memory merging, but I attribute that strictly to my varying levels of consciousnesses trying to tell me something, that I perhaps don't want to know, or already know but need to look at deeper.

Many forever chemicals (endocrine-disrputing chemicals) cause hormonal chaos in the body. What is alarming is that they add that this research has just begun and more is needed.

"Metabolic and Stress Hormones

• PFAS disrupt insulin regulation, contributing to insulin resistance, glucose intolerance, and increased risk of type 2 diabetes, especially in women. 
  
• They also impact the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis, the body’s primary stress response system. PFAS exposure may reduce protein expression in brain regions involved in emotional regulation, potentially affecting stress responses and mental health." (LLM)
  
   
  

[chr0naut]

Putting humour aside a bit, there may be something on this (and one can fly when asleep anyway). Here's another part of a comment from KellyPrettyBear that also fascinates me :

And everyone know that Amanita muscaria can make people taller, and make reindeer fly, so that performing an act might be all about what chemicals, and in which proportion are in the brain.

As for gravity, one comment in the Jacques Vallee's AmA intrigued me.

So I went and look for effects of microgravity on the brain, and it seems that it is documented : Microgravity effects on the human brain and behavior

Flying may come with a 'price', and one must always be careful of its distance from the sun.

There are some oddities about the way humans move in low gravity which are theoretically not possible in physics. Astronauts in places like the ISS, with no contact with a surface to push from, have been able to initiate some sort of forward movement by putting their arms out in front of them and 'corkscrewing' their body. Perhaps it relates to air movement but it is interesting. The effect is cumulative in that the longer you do it, the faster you go. In some ways, it is a bit like how we build up movements on a swing, where we also don't have a 'hard surface' against which to push, but simply augment simple harmonic motion through shifts of center of mass.

Theoretically, if such a method of induction of movement were mechanically possible, we could build inertial thrust machinery that could propel a vessel, but doing so mechanically has eluded engineers for centuries. This is why there seems to be some sort of magic or subtle force happening in regard to the way humans do things.

Flying perceptually while our bodies are physically motionless in the environment is, however, a bit self-deceptive. We can imagine all sorts of unreal and impossible things and our capabilities for simulation, in that regard, are quite exceptional. Half of what superhero comics play against is our ability to dream. The pictures are static and flat but our imaginations are free to soar...

[Maxmars]

There are some oddities about the way humans move in low gravity which are theoretically not possible in physics. Astronauts in places like the ISS, with no contact with a surface to push from, have been able to initiate some sort of forward movement by putting their arms out in front of them and 'corkscrewing' their body. Perhaps it relates to air movement but it is interesting. The effect is cumulative in that the longer you do it, the faster you go. In some ways, it is a bit like how we build up movements on a swing, where we also don't have a 'hard surface' against which to push, but simply augment simple harmonic motion through shifts of center of mass.

Theoretically, if such a method of induction of movement were mechanically possible, we could build inertial thrust machinery that could propel a vessel, but doing so mechanically has eluded engineers for centuries. This is why there seems to be some sort of magic or subtle force happening in regard to the way humans do things.

Flying perceptually while our bodies are physically motionless in the environment is, however, a bit self-deceptive. We can imagine all sorts of unreal and impossible things and our capabilities for simulation, in that regard, are quite exceptional. Half of what superhero comics play against is our ability to dream. The pictures are static and flat but our imaginations are free to soar...

Disregarding the relativity of it all, I think our bodies are malleable enough to 'create' inertia between our squishy parts and our limbs... where micro-gravity makes it plainer to experience...

... it's akin to the realization that punching with only your arm doesn't deliver as much force as when you use your full body.  Here, that extra power would be translated into the 1G environment... but in micro-gravity...
missing your target might just send you flying off unexpectedly... shadow boxing would become much more constrained...

Humans may generate a kind of biologic energy which is undefined for me... it starts fires, electric sparks, affects magnets;  so why should it be alarming that something we might not consciously realize allows us freedom in a new and different way in a totally different gravity environment?

Way to get me lost in thought. 

[IgnorantGod]

There are some oddities about the way humans move in low gravity which are theoretically not possible in physics. Astronauts in places like the ISS, with no contact with a surface to push from, have been able to initiate some sort of forward movement by putting their arms out in front of them and 'corkscrewing' their body. Perhaps it relates to air movement but it is interesting. The effect is cumulative in that the longer you do it, the faster you go. In some ways, it is a bit like how we build up movements on a swing, where we also don't have a 'hard surface' against which to push, but simply augment simple harmonic motion through shifts of center of mass.

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Thanks for further expanding on this, really interesting! I didn't delve much on microgravity, for it is of course, way over my pay grade, same for the cancer article. I think, however, that I've at least understood the principles of what they present.

As Maxmars suggests, maybe there is some sort of 'elasticity' (like a field?) to the body, which could somewhat 'build' a momentum?

[quintessentone]

Thanks for further expanding on this, really interesting! I didn't delve much on microgravity, for it is of course, way over my pay grade, same for the cancer article. I think, however, that I've at least understood the principles of what they present.

As Maxmars suggests, maybe there is some sort of 'elasticity' (like a field?) to the body, which could somewhat 'build' a momentum?

Now the discussion has turned my mind to the energy field surrounding us, or our aura and how that may play into the elasticity and other bodily forces, if at all. Is our aura electromagnetic? If so, how would radiation clothing/protection affect it?
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"Scientifically, while no empirical evidence confirms the existence of a visible aura, some researchers suggest that the human body emits measurable electromagnetic fields (from the heart and brain) that could be interpreted as a physical basis for the concept. These fields do fluctuate with physiological changes, supporting the idea of a dynamic energy presence. 
In summary, the aura is widely regarded as a living, moving energy field—a reflection of the body’s internal state and its interaction with the world"

https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/the-l...uman-aura/

[IgnorantGod]

Now the discussion has turned my mind to the energy field surrounding us, or our aura and how that may play into the elasticity and other bodily forces, if at all. Is our aura electromagnetic? If so, how would radiation clothing/protection affect it?
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Interesting that you bring aura. Something I was wondering lately is the idea that 'aura' could be a form of synesthesia, and there are some papers that try to link the two.

This one is not available in its entirety, but I managed to find the intro : Auras in mysticism and synaesthesia

Here's one on synaesthesia : Color synaesthesia

Maybe the 'aura' is a form of the above condition which allows one to see some EMFs generated by the body as colors?

[quintessentone]

Interesting that you bring aura. Something I was wondering lately is the idea that 'aura' could be a form of synesthesia, and there are some papers that try to link the two.

This one is not available in its entirety, but I managed to find the intro : Auras in mysticism and synaesthesia

Here's one on synaesthesia : Color synaesthesia

Maybe the 'aura' is a form of the above condition which allows one to see some EMFs generated by the body as colors?

You reminded me that when I was learning neuroscience basics, this came back to my mind:

"Color is not just visual—it's cognitive:

• The brain uses color constancy to maintain consistent color perception under varying lighting. 
  
• Warm colors (yellows, reds, oranges) elicit more distinct brain activity patterns than cool colors (blues, greens), especially when brightness changes, suggesting a neural basis for cultural naming differences. 
  
• In synesthesia, cross-activation between brain regions (e.g., grapheme area → V4) causes involuntary color experiences from non-visual stimuli like letters or sounds. 
  

Recent studies using MEG and fMRI show that brain activity patterns uniquely encode specific colors and luminance levels, allowing researchers to predict what color a person is seeing—essentially decoding the brain’s "Pantone" of color perception. "

https://www.wired.com/story/a-new-study-...s-pantone/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3026336/

It begs the questions that if colors represent different wavelengths of the light spectrum then how would this then affect the movement of outside radiation into the aura, then into the body? Would the swirling energies of the aura dissipate some of the radiation, perhaps expelling it outwards or channel it inwards? How might radiation protective gear repel radiation back into the aura thus causing other bodily parts to perhaps absorb the excess?

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"The human aura, described as an electromagnetic energy field, includes electromagnetic radiation spanning from microwave and infrared (IR) to ultraviolet (UV) light.  While visible light (the rainbow spectrum) is only a small part of the full electromagnetic spectrum, the aura's emissions extend beyond this range. Some of these emissions, particularly in the infrared and ultraviolet bands, are forms of light radiation that are not visible to the naked eye but can be detected through specialized equipment like Kirlian cameras or energy scanning systems (e.g., EFi, GDV). 
Additionally, biophotons—ultra-weak light emissions from living cells—are theorized to contribute to the aura's luminous qualities, especially in the etheric layer just beyond the skin.  This subtle light field is often perceived as a soft glow during meditation, emotional release, or in dim lighting. "

https://www.ijerd.com/paper/vol6-issue11/M06118487.pdf

And now we circle back to consciousness.

[IgnorantGod]

I too have dream/memory merging, but I attribute that strictly to my varying levels of consciousnesses trying to tell me something, that I perhaps don't want to know, or already know but need to look at deeper.

Many forever chemicals (endocrine-disrputing chemicals) cause hormonal chaos in the body. What is alarming is that they add that this research has just begun and more is needed.

"Metabolic and Stress Hormones

• PFAS disrupt insulin regulation, contributing to insulin resistance, glucose intolerance, and increased risk of type 2 diabetes, especially in women. 
  
• They also impact the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis, the body’s primary stress response system. PFAS exposure may reduce protein expression in brain regions involved in emotional regulation, potentially affecting stress responses and mental health." (LLM)
  
  
  

It seems from the search I've done so far, that ELF-EMF particularly, don't affect melatonin secretion in human, opposite to rodents, however it looks like it's a different story in regards to cortisol secretion in longterm exposure : Effects of ELF-EMF on cortisol secretion

From the introduction :

Taking into account the latter data on on the adrenal gland together with the relationship between the hypothalamic–pituitaryadrenal axis and ELF-EMF exposure, recently highlighted in a Cochrane review (Rensen et al., 2017), we found worth to document, in healthy human subjects, the effects of magnetic fields on the secretion of cortisol, the major glucocorticoid hormone.

The paper is fairly recent, 2022, so as you said, they only started looking at this recently, while the technology has been there for a while now. And as mentioned previously in the thread, cortisol seems closely tied with 'high strangeness'/'mystical'/'spiritual' events.

From the first link in my post #24, the conclusion goes as follow, note that this review was made in 2024 :

The studies discussed in this review determined that exposure to EMFs, depending on the pattern and amount of radiation, has very different effects on the remodeling of the neuronal system and changes in the cognitive processes resulting from these neuronal changes. These alterations include changes in neurogenesis, apoptotic pathways, gene expression, epigenetic mechanisms, neuronal transmissions, synaptic plasticity, also functional and structural changes in glial cells, ion channels, BBB and dendritic spine that affect cognitive and behavioral consequences. However, in many cases, ELF-EMF seems to act as a neuroprotective and cognitive-enhancing agent, while often, long-term exposure to high-frequency EMFs causes changes in the nervous system that lead to cognitive impairments.

Again, the BBB, neurotransmitters and other changes come back. Then, it seems some parts do have beneficial effects, it may be related to somekind of 'harmonic' that happen between the body and the environment respective 'fields'. Following an event whereas an EMF/RF/ELF/etc. enter in contact with a localized part of the body's 'field', there may be some processes that trigger within the body in order to 'stabilize' the reaction generated, and I'd assume such happen regardless of the beneficial or detrimental result of the interaction (considering the body's cells has no 'memory' stored of a similar somewhat event of which could instruct it with a particular behavior).

[quintessentone]

It seems from the search I've done so far, that ELF-EMF particularly, don't affect melatonin secretion in human, opposite to rodents, however it looks like it's a different story in regards to cortisol secretion in longterm exposure : Effects of ELF-EMF on cortisol secretion

From the introduction :

The paper is fairly recent, 2022, so as you said, they only started looking at this recently, while the technology has been there for a while now. And as mentioned previously in the thread, cortisol seems closely tied with 'high strangeness'/'mystical'/'spiritual' events.

From the first link in my post #24, the conclusion goes as follow, note that this review was made in 2024 :

Again, the BBB, neurotransmitters and other changes come back. Then, it seems some parts do have beneficial effects, it may be related to somekind of 'harmonic' that happen between the body and the environment respective 'fields'. Following an event whereas an EMF/RF/ELF/etc. enter in contact with a localized part of the body's 'field', there may be some processes that trigger within the body in order to 'stabilize' the reaction generated, and I'd assume such happen regardless of the beneficial or detrimental result of the interaction (considering the body's cells has no 'memory' stored of a similar somewhat event of which could instruct it with a particular behavior).

(Sorry for the double quote reply; I had some issues with the auto-insert saved mode feature).

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Humans share approximately 85% of our DNA with rats, so there is room there for discrepancies.

I suppose where I am going with this is that we have to protect ourselves any which way we can because just by virtue that 5G studies have just begun, that should raise the alarm bells that they hoist these potentially health damaging technologies on us then look at the social/health implications later, if at all.

So beyond keeping electronics out of your bedroom and/or unplugging them completely or using wiring instead of wifi (which isn't happening in my home any time soon) let's see what else we can do to help ourselves.

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Let's look at the diet route to alleged protection of our cells from EMFs:

 B vitamins are essential to a healthy nervous system. The B vitamins B6, B9, and B12 are especially important to improving mood and stress response. Appropriate supplementation with a B complex has been shown to support CAR and improve the diurnal rhythm of cortisol (3).  
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Phosphatidylserine is a phospholipid (fatty substance) that makes up part of the cell membrane. When supplemented, phosphatidylserine may help manage elevated cortisol levels. It can be an especially useful tool to help blunt unnecessary elevations of cortisol at bedtime in those with sleep disturbances (2). 
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Omega 3 polyunsaturated fatty acids may help manage inflammation that is induced by the stress response system. Omega 3s are found naturally in high amounts in fish oil, especially from salmon, herring, and sardines (1). When taken as a food or supplement, omega 3’s may help support cognition, decrease depressive symptoms, and help protect the neurons in the brain from injury (1).  "
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"Luckily, magnesium supplements come in many forms – not to mention the foods it is naturally found in, including legumes, nuts, dark chocolate (over 70% minimum) and leafy green vegetables."
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"Foods rich in zinc include pumpkin seeds, turkey, lentils, cashews, seafood such as oysters (the highest known food source of zinc!) or crab and (grass-fed) beef."
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"A scientific study[sup][7][/sup] on rats exposed to a 950 MHz electromagnetic field found that those who had been given kombucha showed a noticeable reduction in adverse EMF-induced effects, compared with those who hadn’t. This led the study’s authors to conclude that “kombucha as a supplement has ameliorative signs against the effects of electromagnetic radiation”."
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"One study[sup][11][/sup] into the effects of oxidative stress caused by EMFs on rats supported this idea, finding that brain and liver glutathione activities decreased in the group exposed to electromagnetic radiation for 1 hour a day.
To keep your antioxidant levels topped up and fight oxidative damage caused by EMFs, eat glutathione-boosting foods like onions, garlic, and cruciferous vegetables like cauliflower, broccoli, kale and cabbage. Take a good quality glutathione supplement, and combine it with fellow supplements that can help build glutathione, such as selenium."
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"Vitamins C & EIn a research paper[sup][12][/sup] published in Toxicology and Industrial Health, rats were exposed to 900 MHz electromagnetic radiation from a mobile phone to examine the effects on their cellular systems. One group of rats in the experiment, however, were exposed to the same radiation – but treated with vitamins C and E.
For the rats who were given vitamins C and E – both of which possess powerful antioxidant properties - the negative effects and oxidative stress caused by the mobile phone radiation were mitigated and decreased."

etc. etc. etc.

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It's odd because for the last few months I've been seeing that word 'cortisol' come up from some of my seemingly unrelated herbal medicine searches.

It seems cortisol secretion dysfunction can be extremely damaging to the body, so the link is provided to inform everyone just how important keeping your stress levels down through 'mindfulness' 'meditation' life style changes...whatever you need to do. Would it not stand to reason cortisol dysfunction levels would also affect one's energy output (aura) to be more weakened?

The elderly seem to be particularly affected from what the researchers deem to be a lifetime of accumulated stress...dare I say PTSD from life being hard (?) Anyway, I think cortisol kept coming up in my searches because I'm on a kick to make my own natural medicines and/or improve health through eating the right diet, such as drinking Kefir to rebalance gut microbiome, which works great, by the way.

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Herbal remedies (?)

"Herbal adaptogens can be a supportive tool against the effects of chronic stress. Adaptogens are herbs and fungi that may help support HPA axis function and the body’s resiliency to stress. Indeed, the initial research on adaptogens was done to help identify substances that could help improve the energy and endurance of USSR soldiers under the stress of active war. Some of the most extensively studied adaptogens are eleuthero, rhodiola, and schisandra. All three have been found to be neuro-protective, may support cognitive function under stress, and combat fatigue. They also demonstrate the ability to modulate cortisol levels to support HPA function (19). Ashwagandha, also an adaptogen, has been shown to help manage elevated cortisol levels if taken for a prolonged period. 
 
https://www.rupahealth.com/post/the-cort...slow-aging
 
Adaptogens:

Eleuthero = Siberian Gingseng

Rhodiola = https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/rhodiola

Schisandra = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schisandra_chinensis

Ashwagandha = https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Ashwag...fessional/