06-09-2024, 06:21 PM
(06-09-2024, 04:28 PM)Maxmars Wrote: I will attempt to add a small point to this realization. Perhaps affirming the state of affairs, but ending on a less underwhelming tone.
I think between you, and and everyone here, we have amassed sufficient evidence and points of discussion to say that there is no more to find... or perhaps better considered, what remain and is being added is mostly "more of the same" and nothing relatively noteworthy taken against everything we have studied.
But I remind us all of what is probably becoming tiresome to hear. "We don't know everything."
There are undeniably gatekeepers of further data... but you know what? They don't know everything either.
If we are to presume they are hiding what they "know," we have to remember they don't necessarily have anything more meaningful than what has already been accumulated in the topic. I don't know if whatever is being concealed behind the effort to shroud the discussion can be called "a game changer." There's infinite room for "what if" discussions, but the task of accumulating new information seems to be sufficient to say, "Yes... it is not a 'fantasy' or a 'fabrication,' there is something more than ourselves here."
But soon, I believe, new technologies and and approaches to sensing equipment may yet provide data which at the very least can separate the wheat from the chaff. New approaches don't have to be limited to the gimmickry of tech though. There have been movements towards a less materialistic approach to communication, and while it's not scientifically concrete, it is interesting.
There is also the missing debate from the topic... namely that IF we understand things correctly, someone has to answer for the gatekeepers in the first place. The unformed image must be resolved. What "commercial enterprise" was actually a cabal of government whose purpose was to hold and control this aspect of reality? How much of the topic has been deliberately kept from the rest of the world. They must explain "why" beyond the base platitudes...
There are still elements of this "UFO conspiracy theory" that merit explanation. We've spent half a century, in our modern world, simply justifying the belief. That is not the "end" of the story in any way.
Having gathered all the data we can use doesn't mean the effort is 'over.'
Now comes the meta analysis... crafting a larger image out of the puzzle pieces. There had been such an effort to refute the pieces, that many overlooked the actual image it produces. I suggest we can't let ourselves be distracted from that... which if anything, is at least closer to an actual "end-point" than where we are now.
((But in all things there must be balance... and taking a break can often be more "productive" than doggedly plodding through while fatigued.))
All fair points, Max.
I suspect that some humans, who I can’t say, know a lot more than most of us. That doesn’t mean everyone in government or military knows those things. From my research, whoever knows anything about this must be very behind the scenes and are part of a very small bunch.
Personally, I think that some people know a huge amount of the story. Maybe not all but nearly all of it. That’s a small number of people but is still known.
I look at it like this. I’m a dude who has been trained in problem/opportunity analysis, resolution and implementation of solutions at scale. Think McKinsey. I was born to very intelligent people as my father is almost certainly a genius (though he would never take a test I’m sure). I used the tools I have to study this subject and not simply take “someone’s word for it”. DIY. I thought different and got confirmed better results than most. I can identify when you’ll see them, a sense of what craft will be present, established them nearly being omnipresent and independently validated for myself much of what we have otherwise been told.
So I’m just a dude on the internet who did that. .mil and others have undoubtedly deployed resources wildly (understatement) beyond what I have the ability to deploy. At bear minimum I suspect they can identify behavior patterns, location preferences, conditions of sightings… across the mediums of oceans, air and space. I can only do air. They might not know who these folks are but they have a hugely better grasp on what’s happening - or at least I’d be shocked if they didn’t.
My Astr0 thread didn’t get any traction but I as I pecked that out on my phone it dawned on me that, Astr0 aside, many answers we seek could be intertwined with “taboo” subjects - specifically Nazi Germany, German archeological history, Antarctica, Von Braun, etc. Things that are painted in distinct lights that make seeking deeper information on this topics challenging - particularly objective reasoning.
This is a lot of words to say my observations say you’re likely over target but I do think there is materially more knowledge on this subject than acknowledged and I don’t think it’s off the table that some humans - who is TBD - are fully engaged with “them”.
Like someone said once… you don’t get in trouble with this subject for what you say or claim to know, you get in trouble for what you can prove. :)
