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The price of peas
#21
I'm going to see if I can get over to Target to see 
what the same thing costs there.   Maybe posters
here are right and it's my grocery store jacking prices.
I've been going there 25 years and they never did before ...
#22
(11-10-2025, 01:24 PM)Vermilion Wrote: It’s possible that the pea farmers are having to increase prices due to not having the slave labor they used to have.
US exports more peas than it imports.
If your business model revolves around cheating by hiring slave labor illegals, maybe it’s not the best business model and the market will sort you out.

CHYNA is the world's largest producer of peas...with no end to their access to slave labor.
INDIA, at #2, has it's caste system still firmly in place.
#23
(11-10-2025, 01:24 PM)Vermilion Wrote: ...
US exports more peas than it imports.
...

From the link I posted on page 1, it looks like it's the other way round.

From Aug 2024 - Jul 2025

Export of frozen peas from the US $15.2M

Imports of frozen peas to the US $62.2M

https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-p...porter/usa

I'm happy to be wrong if you have different figures.
#24
(11-10-2025, 12:40 PM)Encia22 Wrote: Does it say on the bags what the origin is? 

In Europe product labelling always has to have the country of origin, even if from multiple sources.

IIRC, there are ways around that.
Keebler Cookies come to mind.
They had been "manufactured" in Mexico for years.  Didn't see the word Mexico anywhere on the package.  

That may have changed.  This was 15-20 years ago.
#25
Things are more expensive (in California) under Trump tariffs than under Bidenflation.

https://www.nerdwallet.com/finance/learn/price-of-food

Most impacted seem to be...

•coffee
•tea
•rice (basmati and jasmine)
• produce: avocado, tomato, strawberries, bananas, mangos, and many more
• seafood.  My nice cheap Tilapia went up. My Ahi is way up. Even alaskan seafood is up.
• Soybeans, and all my favorite proteins.

Almost deliberately, his tariffs target my diet of mostly fruit, vegetables, rice, seafood, and soybeans.  I thought we grew a lot of soybeans, but the domestic ones had to raise their prices playing keep up with imports.

Everyone's raising prices opportunistically if the product has a substantial import market. 

If only I ate more processed boxed crap, corn, wheat, potatoes, land meat, and lived in denial or programmed not to notice THIS grocery price increase.
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#26
(11-10-2025, 11:57 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: A year ago a small package of Birdseye microwave peas was $1.09.
Today I went grocery shopping and the same package is $2.49.

The price of all the groceries is going up and up.
Doesn't matter if it's a Democrat or Republican in office ...
it's not changing the price of anything.   

What can possibly cause peas to more than double in cost in a year?
Energy hasn't gone up.   Tariffs don't affect peas.   

Insanity.

You could say the supply chain never caught up from covid. And despite covid deaths the population is rising fast 75 million a year. Natural disasters are taking their toll on crops and people. Which shortens the supply of anything and everything.

If I am not mistaken Russia and Ukraine both export crops, and quite a bit. I am sure their war is hampering that. They may not produce peas, but when you can't get the normal crops, you will buy something else. And since nord stream 2 was blown up. Energy for Europe went up.

Tariffs do affect peas, in one way or another, and probably in lots of ways. Since just about everything associated with pea productions is made in China.

And energy cost are rising here in the USA thanks to AI. And they are already burning anything and everything, plastic, trees, and trash to make power.

Then you have just good old greed. If I have to raise the prices of my product everyday, I want a little extra something for my trouble. Which it is all products that are rising in cost.

I just spent 70 bucks for 5 gallons of water, a gallon of milk and 3 standard plastic groceries bags, which weren't even full.
                                   
#27
(11-10-2025, 06:28 PM)Unknownparadox Wrote: I just spent 70 bucks for 5 gallons of water, a gallon of milk and 3 standard plastic groceries bags, which weren't even full.

My estimate of a brown-paper bag of groceries has gone up from $20 to $30 to $40. Depends what's in it of course.

This thread motivated me, and I went to the Indian grocery:

Red potatoes: $1.99/lb
Green beans: $1.49/lb
Bell peppers: $1.49/lb
Carrots: $1.99 for 2lb
Small cauliflower: $4 (!)
Basmati rice: $18 for 10lb
Frozen peas: $12 for 4lb

I also got Polo mints, plantain chips, and a few Crunchy bars. Biggrin
#28
It is also fair to point out that when considering (maybe not peas) the 'numbers' reported never seem to specify how much grain or product is used for food... and how much to manufacture 'fuel' products?

Lots of corn, for example is not grown to be consumed as food.  I guess that applies to lots of food stuffs.
So I wonder about how the tariff manifests indirectly, or are some indemnified from the tariffs because they are used for 'energy?'
#29
We usually buy our frozen veggies from stores who have them on sale.  We used to get IGA frozen veggies, they were actually a product of Flav-R-Pac, which is a pretty good tasting frozen veggi.  But now they just sell the Essential Everyday brand in their store along with some of the ones people think are superior and are more expensive but really are not worth the cost.

We do buy some of the EE veggies and also go to Meijers and buy their frozen veggies, and they are decent tasting, twelve or sixteen ounces for a buck on sales.  The Fkav-R-pacs are now pretty expensive...like two bucks for a pound bag of frozen veggies around here if you can find them in a store.  GFS still sells them.

The cheaper veggies are not as good, but I still like them better than birdseye and some of the major brands.  As far as canned veggies go, I prefer Libbies or DelMonte to some others, but we usually do not eat canned veggies that often anyway.  We tend to buy the frozen ones on sale and eat about a bag a week of those...along with fresh veggies... fresh carrots, celery, potatoes, and cabbage are a big part of our veggies in this house.  Plus lots of onions and we buy garlic by the slleeve of five for a buck sixty nine.

We make the majority of our food from scratch.

We just bought a Meijer turkey today for forty nine cents a pound, just an eleven pound turkey, five dollars and eighty some cents.  Their turkeys are ok, but we do prefer Jenny Os more, and we will buy an extra one of those if the price goes down to less than a buck a pound for the freezer.  We have a jennyO turkey breast in the fridge thawing out for tomorrows supper, got that for a buck a pound around easter, haven't even reached the best buy date yet for that frozen turkey breast.

We are frugel in our shopping, but we try to get decent products and I would take a meijer turkey over a butterball anyday.  But I do like the Jenny-Os, and there is nothing better than an organic pasture raised turkey....but they are a buck and a half a pound at the Coop we belong to, and they are usually way to big for the wife and I.  For thanksgiving the daughter is having it at her house, She is doing an Italian feast this year.  So I have to bring a Homemade cherry pie with cherries from my brothers tree, and a homemade blueberry-blackberry-raspberry mix pie from frozen  local Michigan/wisconsin berries I froze.  We are also bringing Our Homemade Minestrome soup made with real fresh veggies, except for the can of dark red kidney beans.  The cabbage is ahmish.I will have to boil some more homeade bone broth made from  grass fed organic limosine locally raised beef.  I am fussy about my cooking...but we usually buy the celery and carrots organic because the flavor is better, so is the ahmish cabbage or organic cabbage. 

It does not have to cost much to cook good food but requires planning and stocking of ingredients bought when on sale.  Organic iceburg lettuce seems way less bitter than the regular lettuce, but some brands of commercial iceburg are not too bitter.  They are now starting to use Trimethyl glycine to extend the shelf life of iceberg lettuce, it is approved and safer and is related to choline...the plant version.  Our bodies need both trimethyl glycine and/or choline to use in metabolism, I have genetics where I do not convert either one to the other, so I need to eat meat and veggi sources to get what I need, most people can eat either and have the enzymes to convert one to the other or maybe they can just convert only one way.  so some people can eat eggs and get the trimethyl glycine with their enzymes...or eat veggies and make choline when needed from the TMG.  My youngest daughter is like I am, the other daughter can convert choline to TMG but not the other way. 

I could never be a carnivore without green veggies, nor could I be a vegan.  I have tested and sure enough, symptoms of deficiency match the genetic trait...that took over a year of testing to validate.  Homocysteine overload sucks, and brain fog without choline sucks.

Ok, off topic again.  Peas have some chemistry that is good for eyesight...which is more on topic.  So keep eating peas occasionally.
#30
(11-10-2025, 11:39 PM)rickymouse Wrote: Ok, off topic again.  Peas have some chemistry that is good for eyesight...which is more on topic.  So keep eating peas occasionally.

I love that this was the only mention of peas in your post, yet the entire thing was gold and on-topic.

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