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The X-BAT UCAV from Shield AI
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(10-21-2025, 11:07 PM)Sky727 Wrote: In the next 10 years if not sooner air warfare will be changed beyond most of our expectations. Notice how many companies are trying to make autonomous "loyal wingmen" ...

These thing can pull up to 20+Gs or more. A manned aircraft is toast if these thing lock on even with guns. 
[Video: https://youtu.be/9xYhhwsbNUI]

Unmanned aircraft are still subject to structural limits, whether there's a pilot on board or not. Removing the cockpit doesn't suddenly remove the G limits. No aircraft is going to be pulling 20+ Gs, without major structural issues.
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(10-22-2025, 12:33 AM)Sirius Wrote:  
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(10-22-2025, 12:03 AM)Zaphod58 Wrote: Unmanned aircraft are still subject to structural limits, whether there's a pilot on board or not. Removing the cockpit doesn't suddenly remove the G limits. No aircraft is going to be pulling 20+ Gs, without major structural issues.

Watch the video where it is stated 20+ and in some cases up to 30 Gs  An off the shelf Extra 300 can do 10 Gs with no airframe problems. Extra 300 is rated for +10 -4 and I have heard back in the day with some modified that could do even more.

As you know it is mostly the limits of the pilot not the machine that sets the G limits. Why build something that can pull 30+ when there is never going to be a living creature on-board.
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(10-22-2025, 01:03 AM)Sky727 Wrote: Watch the video where it is stated 20+ and in some cases up to 30 Gs  An off the shelf Extra 300 can do 10 Gs with no airframe problems. Extra 300 is rated for +10 -4 and I have heard back in the day with some modified that could do even more.

As you know it is mostly the limits of the pilot not the machine that sets the G limits. Why build something that can pull 30+ when there is never going to be a living creature on-board.

I'm aware of the claims like that, and what planes can pull. But current aircraft require Over G inspections for pulling 9-10Gs. Not the pilot, not the cockpit, the airframe. So suddenly removing the cockpit increases the G forces that much? The airframe can obviously take more Gs than the pilot, but there are still limits. The question is are they talking instantaneous or continuous. Instantaneous G limits are higher, because they're momentary forces. Continuous Gs will limit the life cycle of the airframe, regardless of if it's unmanned or manned.
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(10-22-2025, 01:23 AM)Sirius Wrote:  
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(10-22-2025, 01:36 AM)Sirius Wrote: