(01-22-2025, 05:20 AM)Sirius Wrote: This is that dimensions thing. If you exist through higher dimension controlling the lower ones becomes trivial. You can also move through the higher ones without doing much in the lower planes. Moving some levers in the higher dimension to pluck someone out of 3D doesn't sound that impossible.
A massive problem with this whole topic is the moment you start talking about it, it sounds like allot of woo. Very convenient.
The same thing happens when digging into cults and practices performed.
Don't look here folks, there is demons. Do your cleansing rituals instead. Morning, lunch and night. There is also a special broadcast at 7PM were I will share anything important you need to know about.
So how do we have discourse on the topic?
There is a reason why ridicule is a strong deterrent for the weak minded.
Then if that doesn't work then you go after their livelihoods, particularly in the UFOlogical community but this also works with the occult world as well.
As you no doubt know, from an initiate's point of view, there is truth to not casting pearls before swine, for they know not what they do.
There is a natural order to things, and the grades in most occult orders, especially those that follow the Tree of Life, force the aspirant to exercise their frequencies, so to speak, to become proficient in the basics of astral and physical, and mental control, before moving onto the higher grades. Any 'claim jumping' as may occur usually results in unbalance of some kind.
Part of these basics are indeed the cleansing rituals, as these strengthen the energy body and allow for smoother more useful experiences in astral sight or projection as well as becoming more tolerant of Other beings.
The spiritual and occult side of things therefore tie in very strongly with UFOlogy , and some would say they are the same thing.
You can see that although something may be a nuts and bolts UFO or a physical ET, merely by their (said ET's) use of higher technology and mental concepts, it is better to approach Them from a more balanced and mature spiritual world view.