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Back on topic. Can someone more versed than I explain the difference between Satanism or believing in Satan vs. Luciferianism.

Are there differences, and if so what? I feel like the latter stalks the Halls of Power and is practiced by those that wish to elevate their mortal paths. While the former a shlub like me could pick up just to snub God and wear more black.
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(01-13-2026, 11:07 PM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Back on topic. Can someone more versed than I explain the difference between Satanism or believing in Satan vs. Luciferianism.

Are there differences, and if so what? I feel like the latter stalks the Halls of Power and is practiced by those that wish to elevate their mortal paths. While the former a shlub like me could pick up just to snub God and wear more black.

Ugggh... That sounds like no fun at all. There's an inherent impasse to understanding LHP tendency and how genuine expression manifests through opinion and action the vast majority cant recognize.  

Plus every version explains it differently... like a freaking religion that fights over the right way to be the adversary or be the promethean fire liberator. 

So esoteric music explantions instead?

Lucifurrians:

Imagine - John Lennon

Inverse Christianity Theistic Satanism:

Mr. Bungle - Raping Your Mind

* The occultards that go on about their goetic demons belong in this group. Most common.  

Atheistic Satanism:

Marylin Manson - Fight Song and mOBSCENE

Traditional "Theistic" Satanism:

Exit Eden - Run, or Journey - Wheel In The Sky or just "the wheel"... like the sanskrit ones...
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(01-13-2026, 11:07 PM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Back on topic. Can someone more versed than I explain the difference between Satanism or believing in Satan vs. Luciferianism.

Are there differences, and if so what? I feel like the latter stalks the Halls of Power and is practiced by those that wish to elevate their mortal paths. While the former a shlub like me could pick up just to snub God and wear more black.
 Lucifer and Satan are often used interchangeably for the Devil, but historically,Lucifer ("light-bringer") refers to the fallen angel before his rebellion (like the morning star), while Satan ("adversary") is his name after falling, signifying his role as accuser and tempter, a distinction developed through interpretation, not explicit biblical text. While modern theology often merges them as one being, Lucifer was a title for a powerful angel, whereas Satan describes his function as God's opponent Saint2
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(01-13-2026, 11:07 PM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Back on topic. Can someone more versed than I explain the difference between Satanism or believing in Satan vs. Luciferianism.

Are there differences, and if so what? I feel like the latter stalks the Halls of Power and is practiced by those that wish to elevate their mortal paths. While the former a shlub like me could pick up just to snub God and wear more black.

Satan (שָׂטָן Shaitan) is a fairly general Hebrew word for an "accuser" or "adversary", rather than being a name. Many ancient references do not actually give the fallen archangel a name but refer only to attributes and roles.

Descriptions and meanings
Abaddon: the destroyer
Asmodeus: "creature of judgment"
Azazel: taught man to make weapons of war, introduced cosmetics
Balaam: devil of avarice and greed
Beelzebub: Lord of the Flies, taken from symbolism of the scarab
Behemoth: personification of Satan in the form of an elephant
Haborym: synonym for Satan
Lilith: female devil, Adam's first wife who 'taught him the ropes'
Mastema: synonym for Satan
Naamah: female devil of seduction
Sammael: "venom of God"

It is believed that, originally, Satan was conceived of an adversarial angel of God, but between the writing of the Old and New Testaments, this understanding was changed to meaning the ultimate evil spirit, who no longer did the will of God, but actively opposed His will. This was possibly a syncretism of Zoroastrian ideas.

During the translation of the original Koine Greek and Hebrew texts of what we now call the Bible, Satan (Shaitan) symbolized an angel that was "the morning star" (i.e. once was beautiful and bright, but had faded).

This "Morning star" was translated as the literal morning star (the planet Venus) also referred to as the "light bringer" or 'lucifer', in Ancient Roman speak. Lucifer is not a name, it is an attribute, totally scrambled and misunderstood through successive translational and cultural 'Chinese whispers".
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Just ran into this one. I wonder if this will ever be proven true or not? 

CONGRESSIONAL WITNESS/GREENLAND: SECRET LAND BEYOND THE ICE WALL [TRUMP & ELON MOVIE NIGHT]
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JESSIE MARIE CZEBOTAR PASSED POLYGRAPH [BY FORMER FBI] SHE WATCHED HILLARY CLINTON EAT A CHILD ALIVE  

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#27
Not sure how this fits. But in my quirky mind, here goes.

Im curious about the nature of selling one’s soul. Not so much the promise of earthly riches, fake, prestige, etc. Rather I’m interested in why the possessing or purchase of a soul would benefit one side or the other of the Other Side.

So. I did a little Google experiment and tried to figure out the worth of the soul. No dice. However, it does seem the worth of a human life is roughly $1.3M. So whether this equates to a soul’s worth or whom it belongs to is certainly up for debate still. 

Im not implying to be a Satanist or Luciferian this is a requirement. I wouldn’t know anyway.

But if you practice either/or, I would bet you aren’t making it to the Pearly Gates if that’s your belief system. Again I don’t know how this figures, but from multitudes of Rock music going back to Robert Johnson and whispers from yore, it sounds like this has been a thing for a long time.

Anyway. Just some crumbs to nibble on.
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Satan is quite a paradox, within freedom of spirit.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(01-16-2026, 10:44 PM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Anyway. Just some crumbs to nibble on.

I would imagine that a 'soul', like certain 'human rights', would be one of those things that are inalienable.

Which is an interesting word—not only does inalienable mean it can't be taken away, but it also means that it can't be given away. No matter what oaths or contracts or promises or anything are made.

However I also imagine that attempting to do so would be a fairly clear indication of some sort of intent, which I believe the Universe (however it works) does not ignore...
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(01-16-2026, 10:53 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: I would imagine that a 'soul', like certain 'human rights', would be one of those things that are inalienable.

Which is an interesting word—not only does inalienable mean it can't be taken away, but it also means that it can't be given away. No matter what oaths or contracts or promises or anything are made.

However I also imagine that attempting to do so would be a fairly clear indication of some sort of intent, which I believe the Universe (however it works) does not ignore...


So Satan had rights and exercised them, then was outcast. Where have I seen this before?
"The only journey is the one within."



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