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The Saturn Ringmakers
#11
I have a creepy idea...

Could there be a purely biological component to this phenomenon?
Not intelligent aliens particularly... but a process of life?

And on the other hand... precisely engineering rings formed around a giant might generate specific kinds of signals, or be useful in some way to communicate...

(I'm all over the map today.)
#12
(07-31-2025, 06:06 PM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: Yes, hearing them as sound after converting them to the correct frequency band to be heard is the easiest way to interperate them. It makes comparison easier also because they are no longer just squiggles on an oscilloscope.

But that has a problem, the range, as the audible range is much shorter than the radio range, so while we get a general idea we lose the detail.
#13
(07-31-2025, 04:09 PM)KKLoco Wrote: No not moons. Watch the last video I posted. It shows many pictures of the machines. They are ejecting material.

I watched both videos on my tablet in full screen. I want my 45 minutes back. There is no evidence of anything other than Shepard moons, spokes, and other natural ring phenomena that are all just part of orbital dynamics.

The inclusion of the CIA operation to make the Soviet Union waste money and resources is laughable.

Yes there is much knowledge from the past that is lost. Yes we should be reinterpreting much of that remaining information as a misinterpreting of scientific information, they did not have words to describe what they saw. Having said that, the ringmakers just have no evidence for them existing.

Where are the ones for Mars and Earth? Both in fact have rings and are closer so the ringmakers would be more easily observed.  Where are they? 

And to explain why I want my 45 minutes back, YouTube has a double speed playback option. It saved a lot of time.

Oh my, look at the rings being made from nothing.




The part you can't see is in the shadow of Saturn. The rings are still there, just in the dark.
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#14
And here we have other ring formations known as spokes. Just lower density parts of the rings that happen to line up sometimes because the rocks closer to the planet go around it faster than the ones farther away. They only look like they are forming and dissipating.




And now for some Shephard moons.




And here is the sounds of the rings of saturn just because they have been mentioned.




Aren't the wonders of nature amazing?
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
#15
(07-31-2025, 06:23 PM)ArMaP Wrote: But that has a problem, the range, as the audible range is much shorter than the radio range, so while we get a general idea we lose the detail.

Yes, just like you can miss the forest while studying one tree. The audio conversion gives you the big picture then you can study the trees that are interesting. In this case, you know what part to analize the recording in detail more quickly. The different sounding parts.

It is also quite relaxing to listen to.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
#16
(07-31-2025, 06:58 PM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: Yes, just like you can miss the forest while studying one tree. The audio conversion gives you the big picture then you can study the trees that are interesting. In this case, you know what part to analize the recording in detail more quickly. The different sounding parts.

It is also quite relaxing to listen to.

Did you look at the credentials of the man proclaiming this? Sorry, I do like your posts. However, I think I'm more interested in what a guy with these credentials has to say:

https://nasa.fandom.com/wiki/Norman_Bergrun

Norman Riley Bergrun (1922 — June 2018) was a scientist at Ames Research Center. He was educated at Cornell University with post graduate study at Stanford University. Bergrun played an active role in all-weather flight, as well as the control of high speed airplanes.[sup][1][/sup]
Bergrun pioneered the methodology of thermal ice prevention design. He is credited with roll-stability laws for airplanes and missiles.[sup][2][/sup]
[Image: 150?cb=20220826035825]At Lockheed Missiles and Space Company,[sup][1][/sup] Bergrun was manager of test planning and analysis for the Polaris Underwater Launch Missile System and evaluated satellite system applications. Bergrun appears on the wall of Honor Level as "Air and Space Friend" at the National Air and Space Museum.[sup][2][/sup]
As director of Information Systems, he founded his own company in 1971 and is cited in "Who's Who in the World".[sup][2][/sup]
#17
(08-01-2025, 06:20 PM)KKLoco Wrote: Did you look at the credentials of the man proclaiming this? Sorry, I do like your posts. However, I think I'm more interested in what a guy with these credentials has to say:

https://nasa.fandom.com/wiki/Norman_Bergrun

Norman Riley Bergrun (1922 — June 2018) was a scientist at Ames Research Center. He was educated at Cornell University with post graduate study at Stanford University. Bergrun played an active role in all-weather flight, as well as the control of high speed airplanes.[sup][1][/sup]
Bergrun pioneered the methodology of thermal ice prevention design. He is credited with roll-stability laws for airplanes and missiles.[sup][2][/sup]
[Image: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/nasa/i...0826035825]At Lockheed Missiles and Space Company,[sup][1][/sup] Bergrun was manager of test planning and analysis for the Polaris Underwater Launch Missile System and evaluated satellite system applications. Bergrun appears on the wall of Honor Level as "Air and Space Friend" at the National Air and Space Museum.[sup][2][/sup]
As director of Information Systems, he founded his own company in 1971 and is cited in "Who's Who in the World".[sup][2][/sup]

Please explain what exactly any of those credentials have to do with the subject being discussed. He was mearly speculating on some visual data he has seen, his own personal interpretation. He was also selling books about these speculations. Even the guy that made the second video in the op admits the whole thing may not be correct as stated. Did you not watch the video you posted to the end?

This is like an advanced neural surgeon saying where to find oil. The person has nice credentials but not in what he is talking about.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
#18
I actually have his book in electronic format.
I have tried to read it and follow along but I have to confess that my attention span is not what it used to be.

He basically believes that these are biomechanical beings/ships that are building the rings. I never found for what purpose, because I just got bored and lost my focus.

I prefer to have an actual book in my hands to flip through, back and forth than trying to read something on my phone.

Meh…


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