The NWO seemed to morph from a neo-fascist to communist conspiracy

[DBCowboy]

In the late 1990s and early 2000s when I first became interested in conspiracy theory as a callow youth it was definitely the scary neo-fascist New World Order (with shades of Satanic end times), complete with black helicopters and quasi-nazi figures brandishing swords at minors from emergent nations; as depicted in the infamous mural at Denver Airport. 

Now the NWO seems to have transitioned to become more communist in tone. Now it's gender neutral jack-booted thugs with blue hair waving the flag of some arid desert region state many of them have probably never been to (even the pretentious neo-Marxist intellectuals from the 1940s/50s would probably blush at these violent cartoonish caricatures because Jean-Paul Sartre they ain't).

Something definitely went wrong somewhere down the line.

It's always been a communist plot to take over the world.  That plan has never ended.  World domination, enslaving mankind, has been and will be the communist dream.  

Sadly, too many Europeans and Americans want this.

"It's a republic if you can keep it". 







Looks like we can't.

[Byrd]

 

Oops.  Duplicate.  Sorry about that.

[DBCowboy]

Oops.  Duplicate.  Sorry about that.

Does it matter "WHO" makes us communist slaves?

[govshill2]

Again, I don't see a coordinated "NWO."  I do see the usual (from time immemorial) actions of the ultra wealthy trying to shape things to their liking, but each rich family has different goals than other rich families.

The New World Order is based on the very real central banking system. BIS Basel Committee etc.

[ANNEE]

If it ever needs to be. 

“They” know who they are.

[quintessentone]

Again, I don't see a coordinated "NWO."  I do see the usual (from time immemorial) actions of the ultra wealthy trying to shape things to their liking, but each rich family has different goals than other rich families.

I'm thinking the billionaire (now trillionaire?) tech bro club is the emerging NWO and they are indeed shaping the stock markets/future goals to their liking/agendae and it seems to be where the US government's economic stability is teetering right now.

Globalization makes that something to keep an eye on because those tech bros need resources that they can't get in-house, so to speak. If it's all about wealth, power and corruption then what will rich families do when their wealth and/or freedom (as some with their despicable criminal behaviours are protected by other rich people in their circles) is threatened?

We see them protecting each other, so is that a NWO or a same day, same shit, business as usual thing?

[Byrd]

I'm thinking the billionaire (now trillionaire?) tech bro club is the emerging NWO and they are indeed shaping the stock markets/future goals to their liking/agendae and it seems to be where the US government's economic stability is teetering right now.

Globalization makes that something to keep an eye on because those tech bros need resources that they can't get in-house, so to speak. If it's all about wealth, power and corruption then what will rich families do when their wealth and/or freedom (as some with their despicable criminal behaviours are protected by other rich people in their circles) is threatened?

We see them protecting each other, so is that a NWO or a same day, same shit, business as usual thing?

I think it's "business as usual."

Any one of them can get toppled from the "biggest billionaire club" and there's no lineage/empire that will take the reins of what they had and run it successfully.  At one time (1820), Stephen Girard was the wealthiest man in America (and by that logic would have been part of the NWO) but the Girards are no longer any sort of powermonger.  

If you do a search on some of the wealthiest people by decade, you'll see this same sort of thing -- rise to power and fall.  The power of wealth is stronger in very restrictive societies (like Arabian peninsula countries) and tends to stay with one lineage because of marriage restrictions and other enforced social restrictions.  In more liberal countries, the list of "most wealthy" changes -- and can change rapidly.

Take, for example Imelda and Ferdinand Marcos (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imelda_Marcos).  They had so much wealth and power in the Philippines and elsewhere that a case could be made for them being NWO.  Yet they were brought down and their lineage and friends no longer play an important part in national and international politics.

Or the late Steve Jobs... any idea who took over his wealth and power?  Even the directors of Apple today don't entirely follow his philosophies.

And that's why I don't believe in an "NWO."  I do believe in local overpowered politicians and oligarchs but also know that their power doesn't last.  Even the Rothschilds (famous in conspiricies), who do have a lineage of wealth, weren't wealthy before 1700 and after the 1800's (when they were the main banking family in Europe), the wealth got divided and based in different countries.  If you look at the individuals today, you'll see that they live in different countries, support different social goals, and don't really coordinate on anything.

[montybd]

NWO is a moniker that was/ is tied to the Rockefeller brothers. Henry Kissinger and Klaus Schwab were introduced to David Rockefeller who in turn introduced the two to his brother Nelson during his presidential run. 

These two were placed and able to let the Rockefeller's hold sway in Europe and US at the highest levels. There were / are many others in similar positions under the hand of the Rockefeller money. 

The Rockefeller wet dream has always been to have a say over world politics and government.

While we spin our wheels in the details of trying to live day to day, they tend to make long range goals to one day control the world.

[DBCowboy]

NWO is a moniker that was/ is tied to the Rockefeller brothers. Henry Kissinger and Klaus Schwab were introduced to David Rockefeller who in turn introduced the two to his brother Nelson during his presidential run. 

These two were placed and able to let the Rockefeller's hold sway in Europe and US at the highest levels. There were / are many others in similar positions under the hand of the Rockefeller money. 

The Rockefeller wet dream has always been to have a say over world politics and government.

While we spin our wheels in the details of trying to live day to day, they tend to make long range goals to one day control the world.

Funny thing about their long-term goals.

They'll last longer than I'll live, so meh.

[chr0naut]

It's always been a communist plot to take over the world.  That plan has never ended.  World domination, enslaving mankind, has been and will be the communist dream.  

I think you are mistaken. Those are the goals of the extreme right.

Sadly, too many Europeans and Americans want this.

"It's a republic if you can keep it". 

Looks like we can't.

The largest and most powerful communist alliance of countries was a republic - the "United Soviet Socialist Republic" (USSR).

Being a republic isn't necessarily a good thing.

There are some very stable, peaceable, prosperous, free and fair governments around the world, and throughout history, that aren't, or haven't been, republics.

You can get information on all sorts of things like that on the internet if you look for it.

The CIA World Factbook used to a fairly good resource. Unfortunately it has recently been shuttered by the Trump administration, despite its usefulness in education.

Knowledge is the enemy!

Spotlighting The World Factbook as We Bid a Fond Farewell