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When I originally posted this link in my post, 3 hours ago, there were many more graphs showing.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/...ent-years/
I was surprised to click that link and see the graphs I used are no longer accessed by that link.
I thought it may be an archival edit, but all Wayback Machine snapshots show a shortened article.
I feel like theres something really off with this, and if someone could find the original non-PDF link with at least 6 different (red/grey/blue line) graphs showing. I would feel far less like my post just broke reality or the langoliers are coming. I try NOT to think so paranoid, but....
Like any explanation that accidentally redirected the link to a different version I saw the first 3 times I clicked... that have since evaporated from the continuum.
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(12-16-2025, 05:51 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: so paranoid
The ones in this link?
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/...olicies_2/
This graph?
https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/u...cies_2.png
Of course I tried archive.org, but it said "Too many requests".
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Yup.
I was going through it to line up the bullet points with the graphs and remembered there being multiple graphs (all like that) in the article. And then going back to find a specific poll to screenshot and it was gone..
Now there is only the one graph. Which is the only image i can find archived.
I really would prefer to be crazy here... but there was a lot more scrolling and images of line graphs to go through at one point.
I'd really prefer time and antecedence not be broken anymore. Because i don't like the non-relative implications of the past being non-linear. It makes things too incompatible for me if backwards time-travel/alterations are possible. And it really screws with my belief that I am choosing free will.
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(12-16-2025, 06:56 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Yup.
I was going through it to line up the bullet points with the graphs and remembered there being multiple graphs (all like that) in the article. And then going back to find a specific poll to screenshot and it was gone..
Now there is only the one graph. Which is the only image i can find archived.
I really would prefer to be crazy here... but there was a lot more scrolling and images of line graphs to go through at one point.
I'd really prefer time and antecedence not be broken anymore. Because i don't like the non-relative implications of the past being non-linear. It makes things too incompatible for me if backwards time-travel/alterations are possible. And it really screws with my belief that I am choosing free will.
You are not crazy... this has been spotted around the web for a relatively few research sources...
the culling of history has begun in earnest...
Just kidding... I fend off paranoia like that often...
It is however, a recurring observation... the 'diminished' record.
Some claim it's an "IP" thing, others happen where 'publisher' rely on material that wasn't a fixed source, but an aggregator...etc.
Internet Archive is however under constant threat... "Angels, and Ministers of Grace defend us!"
Amidst endless IP law-fare pettifoggery, and big media on their heels... they also have the 'agencies' and 'water armies' at play in the fields of the Lord...
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(11-02-2025, 08:05 PM)marshun Wrote: a personal Mandela effect anecdote.
I recall reading a book about voodoo years ago. among other things it mentioned a sort of ghost car that priests and practitioners would ride around in at night. as I recall it was called 'auto zebop'. supposedly if you saw strange lights at night it was an auto zebop.
I looked for this last few days and found nothing. I did find a bunch of references to some Grand Theft Auto stuff.
auto zebop / voodoo ghost car ring a bell with anyone?
I found the original book. it's 'Auto Zobop'.
almost everything on the internets I find involves some electric bike, but I have found a few references to it.
google 'auto zobop Haiti' and there are several references, mostly in Creole / French.
https://casondraandco.wordpress.com/tag/casondra/
There have been accounts of a sinister group called the Zobop who were mad magicians that wore black and terrorized Haiti in the 1940’s. The people claim that the Zobop would travel in black cars that would shoot out blue beams of light.
well I'm glad I found this!
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(12-23-2025, 10:52 PM)marshun Wrote: I found the original book. it's 'Auto Zobop'.
almost everything on the internets I find involves some electric bike, but I have found a few references to it.
google 'auto zobop Haiti' and there are several references, mostly in Creole / French.
https://casondraandco.wordpress.com/tag/casondra/
There have been accounts of a sinister group called the Zobop who were mad magicians that wore black and terrorized Haiti in the 1940’s. The people claim that the Zobop would travel in black cars that would shoot out blue beams of light.
well I'm glad I found this!
Nicely done!
Sometimes it takes the right researcher....
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I thought the Hindenburg blew up and everyone on board died and it was hundreds of people.
But it was 35 people who died; most of those on board survived.
Quote:The Hindenburg disaster was an airship accident that occurred on May 6, 1937, in Manchester Township, New Jersey, United States. The LZ 129 Hindenburg (Luftschiff Zeppelin #129; Registration: D-LZ 129) was a German commercial passenger-carrying rigid airship, the lead ship of the Hindenburg class, the longest class of flying machine and the largest airship by envelope volume.[1] Filled with hydrogen, it caught fire and was destroyed during its attempt to dock with its mooring mast at Naval Air Station Lakehurst. The accident caused 35 fatalities (13 passengers and 22 crewmen) among the 97 people on board (36 passengers and 61 crewmen), and an additional fatality on the ground. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindenburg_disaster
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(01-08-2026, 06:28 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: I thought the Hindenburg blew up and everyone on board died and it was hundreds of people.
But it was 35 people who died; most of those on board survived.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindenburg_disaster
I am wondering if people were initially in shock with the horror of the newscast (audio via radio I think?) then just never followed up on the specific details afterwards (?) So maybe in everyone's mind by listening to that newscaster's emotional and traumatic radio description, just assumed everyone was killed (?)
"The only journey is the one within."
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(01-08-2026, 06:52 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I am wondering if people were initially in shock with the horror of the newscast (audio via radio I think?) then just never followed up on the specific details afterwards (?) So maybe in everyone's mind by listening to that newscaster's emotional and traumatic radio description, just assumed everyone was killed (?)
Yes, this one is very iffy as an actual history "Mandela Effect". It is very plausible the explanation you present, that the narrative of complete destruction was simply too "sticky". Perhaps we can go conspiratorial and blame that on Big Oil vs Big Dirigible?
It's not like the Black Tom explosion, which some people will insist never happened in the history they were taught. That's more a Mandela Effect of elision.
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Hindenburg...
In primary school they gave us a research exercise of a list of disasters and nobody could find Hindenburg in the encyclopedias (World Book, Britannica, Funk and Sly Stone) and the closest we could all get was the hidelburg line in wwII.
We KNEW about it, but we couldnt find a ref for it.
Worse is the teacher didnt know about it (us kids we knew about it from science class). He didnt know because some people can not... I digress
Thankfully children today can use computers to smack the snot of cnty much more efficiently.
I was not here.
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