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The Love of Money
#1
Keep your life free from love of money and be content with what you have. If we have food and clothing, with these we should be content. We brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world. Better is the little that the righteous has than the abundance of many wicked. For the arms of the wicked shall be broken, but the LORD upholds the righteous.

Those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the Christian faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourself treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.


Some Relevant Scripture:
He who loves money will not be satisfied with money, nor he who loves wealth with his income; this also is vanity. (Ecclesiastes 5:10 ESV)

Be free from the love of money, content with such things as you have, for he has said, “I will in no way leave you, neither will I in any way forsake you.” So that with good courage we say, “The Lord is my helper. I will not fear. What can man do to me?” (Hebrews 13:5-6 WEBPB)

But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into the world, and we certainly can’t carry anything out. But having food and clothing, we will be content with that. But those who are determined to be rich fall into a temptation, a snare, and many foolish and harmful lusts, such as drown men in ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some have been led astray from the faith in their greed, and have pierced themselves through with many sorrows. (1 Timothy 6:6-10 WEBPB)

“Don’t lay up treasures for yourselves on the earth, where moth and rust consume, and where thieves break through and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consume, and where thieves don’t break through and steal; for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. “The lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore your eye is sound, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eye is evil, your whole body will be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you is darkness, how great is the darkness! “No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You can’t serve both God and Mammon. Therefore I tell you, don’t be anxious for your life: what you will eat, or what you will drink; nor yet for your body, what you will wear. Isn’t life more than food, and the body more than clothing? See the birds of the sky, that they don’t sow, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns. Your heavenly Father feeds them. Aren’t you of much more value than they? “Which of you by being anxious, can add one moment to his lifespan? Why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow. They don’t toil, neither do they spin, yet I tell you that even Solomon in all his glory was not dressed like one of these. But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today exists and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, won’t he much more clothe you, you of little faith? “Therefore don’t be anxious, saying, ‘What will we eat?’, ‘What will we drink?’ or, ‘With what will we be clothed?’ For the Gentiles seek after all these things; for your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first God’s Kingdom and his righteousness; and all these things will be given to you as well. Therefore don’t be anxious for tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Each day’s own evil is sufficient. (Matthew 6:19-34 WEBPB)

But know this: that in the last days, grievous times will come. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, not lovers of good, traitors, headstrong, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, holding a form of godliness but having denied its power. Turn away from these, also. For some of these are people who creep into houses and take captive gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Even as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these also oppose the truth, men corrupted in mind, who concerning the faith are rejected. But they will proceed no further. For their folly will be evident to all men, as theirs also came to be. (2 Timothy 3:1-9 WEBPB)

“You shall not covet your neighbour’s house. You shall not covet your neighbour’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbour’s.” (Exodus 20:17 WEBPB)


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#2
Thank you. How do you feel about the hatred of money?


"holding a form of godliness but having denied its power": this is how I feel about churches that closed during COVID.
#3
The problem is that religious organisations always want our money, so....

And that's as true today as it has been throughout the better part of recorded history.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#4
Apologies, I didn't read the whole post but I couldn't help thinking "you'll own nothing and be happy".

Cheers.
#5
There's no sin in having money or desiring to earn more money.

The sin is when one starts to worship money, that's it.
#6
(11-03-2025, 08:12 AM)Moon68 Wrote: There's no sin in having money or desiring to earn more money.

The sin is when one starts to worship money, that's it.

Unfortunately, money is a necessary evil in this day of age, same as in the past.

Take it away, and we would simply never get anything done.

Without it, people wouldn't bother working or make stuff for others.

Because there would be no fair way to exchange value.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#7
(11-03-2025, 08:38 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Unfortunately, money is a necessary evil in this day of age, same as in the past.

Take it away, and we would simply never get anything done.

Without it, people wouldn't bother working or make stuff for others.

Because there would be no fair way to exchange value.

It's nothing more than a medium of exchange.

No different than trading a bushel of beans for a bushel of corn.

Or a flock of goats for a daughter
#8
(11-03-2025, 10:16 AM)Moon68 Wrote: It's nothing more than a medium of exchange.

No different than trading a bushel of beans for a bushel of corn.

Or a flock of goats for a daughter

That's more like a barter system through.

Which has clear limitations. 

Like the fact that it relies on what is called "a double coincidence of wants" for a start.

Meaning that both parties must want what the other offers.

Else it simply makes transactions inefficient or unequal. 

Money solves that problem because it acts as a ""universal"" medium of exchange. 

Essentially, it makes trade efficient and scalable.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#9
(11-03-2025, 07:41 AM)andy06shake Wrote: The problem is that religious organisations always want our money, so....

They need money to operate and stay in business.  Without money they'd all fail.

The problem is when they move from taking in money to pay bills ... to taking in money to make a profit.
#10
(11-03-2025, 10:49 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: They need money to operate and stay in business.  Without money they'd all fail.

The problem is when they move from taking in money to pay bills ... to taking in money to make a profit.

Well, they sure do seem to take a lot of other people's money and stuff it in their own coffers. 

If in doubt, see the likes of the Vatican's history.

Or in our own respective nations, these socalled televangelist Christian preachers with their lavish mansions and private jets.

I mean, what would Jesus say? 

I don't imagine it would be anything good, considering his propensity to expel the money changers from the temples.  Saint2
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."