The Digital Concentration Camp

[ReturnofBroccoli]

There's a simple solution to this. Its called invest in crypto and i wrote an entire book about it in the cryptology section of deny ignorance. This crypto conversation feels off topic though. I dont see how it works into a digital concentration camp and I guarantee the developers won't stand for it.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

Hi all,

I was going to put this in Politics but it is much bigger than that.

It is not just a Right or Left thing.

As I have been crowing for months or even years, we need to step away from the partisan bickering, the emotional brainwashing of 'my side' vs 'your side,' and especially away from 'oh it's the lesser of two evils.'  That is not acceptable .I have been advocating for a third way, a disconnect out of the Game for quite some time. 

This recent news sickens me and it is only more proof of the two party shell game,[ even in other parts of the Western World, like Europe, all the political parties , while not as rabid, can roughly be put down to Socialists versus Conservatives] while behind the scenes the corporations that own the governments implement their CCP style wet dream.  The difference being, in Europe people are far more tired of political nonsense, and so they have some (pretend) viable third parties, and when their parliaments get gridlocked, the big bureaucratic fascist fat cats in Brussels step in anyway and regulate over legality.  This political fatigue and perhaps surrender is also illustrated in the very large abstention rate in voting in most European countries.

But that's just a backdrop.

Biden was bad, but now Trump is shaping up to be bad in his own way too.
Why? 
Recall the first term of Trump, it seemed more logical, more focussed.  Then something happened and he seemed to lose his swagger, near the end of his first term.  It is like something 'got to him,' and he was threatened.
Now we have his second term, and he is putting in the Control Mechanism that was Biden's parties' wet dream also.  Elon is a part of this from a technology stand point.
Both parties are 2 hands of the same evil body, especially since Trump (who I believe used to be America first, but is now coopted) wants to pass this evil bill against all American freedom stands for, and would feed the fascist technocracy.  
They tried to implement this under COVID but there was larger backlash.
Now it is hidden here:
 

• President Donald Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill Act” includes a contentious provision, Section 43201, that imposes a 10-year ban on state-level AI regulation. This move prioritizes federal control over AI, preempting state laws on AI training, data collection and decision documentation, and has sparked bipartisan opposition.
  

In tandem, Regeneron’s purchase of DNA-testing pioneer 23andMe—a firm whose 2023 data breach exposed genetic data to unnamed third parties—now hands pharmaceutical firms direct access to genomic datasets. This comes as the FDA erodes privacy further by allowing Institutional Review Boards to waive informed consent for “minimal risk” studies, potentially letting AI systems like Stargate process biometric data without user consent.

The same week states warn of losing regulatory power, the White House is advancing Stargate, a $500 billion AI infrastructure initiative partnering federal agencies with companies like OpenAI and Oracle. Launched in January 2025, Stargate aims to harmonize AI tools across defense, healthcare and biomedical research. Its implications are stark: Oracle’s Larry Ellison recently announced plans to use AI to mine electronic health records for mRNA drug development targeting individual genomes.

I am going to quote my correspondent friend and author Dr Joseph Farrell here as he says it perfectly:

" to put it with country-simple bluntness, the artificial intelligence provisions are about stripping everyone not only of their privacy, but of their health care sovereignty. Imagine, if such a system had been in place during the planscamdemic, no one would have been able to "opt out" of taking Big Pharma's potion injections. Remember, they even had to redefine the word "vaccine", because their potions did not qualify as such under any traditional definition.  They would have been able to track everyone, and track everyone down, who refused to take Big Pharma's potions.  It's a vote for suicide and tyranny.And remember, some advocates of Big Pharma's witchery actually wanted to round up potion-deniers and imprison them...
So in other words, the Big Beautiscamful Bait-and-Switch consolidates private and government surveillance, and strips you of your medical and health care sovereignty.  The Big Beautiscamful Bill would strip the states of their sovereignty by denying a crucial component of it: nullification.  And with these two things - the No State Interference with our Artificial intelligence Plans for Ten Years, and no medical or health care sovereignty and privacy - we have the two reasons no one is talking about in either faction of the uniparty, and the real reasons that some are in such a rush to pass it.
These are strange times indeed, for though my reasons are quite different from theirs, who would have thought that I, traditionalist curmudgeon extraordinaire, would find myself in agreement with Chuck Schumer and Rand Paul all at the same time."

Say goodbye to any last semblance of personal autonomy at a cellular level if this passes.

It's not just AI, and people being made dumber, it's your genetics, your health, and your liberty.

https://gizadeathstar.com/2025/06/the-bi...nd-switch/

If our Congress Critters care at all for their states, they need to ALL vote against this bill.

Or get ready for the splitting of society into 'progressive' passive transhumanist 'whateveryousay' lazy AI using 'humans' and organic pureblood non-AI parallel economy humans. . . .

I agree fully with the majority of this especially the first half of this

[Kwaka]

I dont see how it works into a digital concentration camp and I guarantee the developers won't stand for it.

it starts with improved surveillance, lot more data, tracking and verification going on with each transaction. Identity, fraud and other regulatory checks happening in real time. 

As for where developers like the World Economic Forum and Blackrock are headed as the time nears to update the underlying financial infrastructure, XRP, HBAR, XDC and XLM are some that have received ISO accreditation. Ahead of the pack when it come to implementing corporate wide, enterprise solutions.

 The concentration camp problems start when the WhO starts pushing around new regulations as a new pandemic is declared or some other new government / corporate regulation emerges with some risks and unanswered questions. With the corporate in control of the main payment systems world wide, it is a lot of leverage to bring in conflicts between the state and the individual.

[Maxmars]

I always remind myself that the most important thing not to lose sight of is how frequently, (and in how many forms,) the effort to seize control under the guise of commerce and services has been foisted upon us.

The object of 'data' is to know.

Once you figure out "know what?", the roller coaster begins.... 

The "who" is transparent, the "how" is also self-evident,

the "why" is the kicker:

It's always (ALWAYS): "WE get to "decide"... YOU don't!"
Usually backed up with a monolithic "civil and criminal penalties' clause...

... and often excepting themselves or their "commercial/political" "interests."

[sahgwa]

I am not an expert on stablecoins, generally see it as a way to implement a digital currency that is backed by more than the strength of its encryption. It has been setup as a bridge between digital and real world money with its aim to stabilize the evolving financial landscape. 

I am not aware of anyone being forced to use stable coin or has been financially ruined should they have been blacklisted by the stable coin networks. With the recent moves in the USA around stable coins, there is a lot of government regulation in the back ground with how this currency works. 

I don't see stable coins are at the stage where you will be fined for eating too much meat, farting or having any wrong think. They are at a stage that does comply with banking regulations and open to seizures in line with standard legal proceedings.

Exactly!
It is in the 'laying the groundwork stage'
Once it is implemented as a 'good thing' then you will see the coercion and control come out of the woodwork.
If it is not allowed to be 'laid down and set up' in the first place, then we wont have to worry about part two.

[sahgwa]

I agree fully with the majority of this especially the first half of this

Even if the AI provision was taken out of the Big Bloated Bill, thanks to the Senate, the precedent is there, and the push is there.  They will dumb you and your kids down and make it insidiously inserted into all of your society to use AI whether you want to or not , and if you aren't careful you will see it bringing your self sufficiency down terribly, not to mention your memory and attention span. 
That's for the other thread , but it ties into that whole picture, a race of bug eating hive mind Borg creatures.
So now that they have some tiny push back on the AI part, they are keeping it more 'friendly and corporate' instead of government and medical, but it will all be tied together in the end.
The financial aspect is the super glue, the cement, that is the foundation and sticks it all together .

[Maxmars]

As a parent of now adult children I can say...

"AI" as an appliance... is a really BAD idea.

But sellers will sell...

[ReturnofBroccoli]

Even if the AI provision was taken out of the Big Bloated Bill, thanks to the Senate, the precedent is there, and the push is there.  They will dumb you and your kids down and make it insidiously inserted into all of your society to use AI whether you want to or not , and if you aren't careful you will see it bringing your self sufficiency down terribly, not to mention your memory and attention span. 
That's for the other thread , but it ties into that whole picture, a race of bug eating hive mind Borg creatures.
So now that they have some tiny push back on the AI part, they are keeping it more 'friendly and corporate' instead of government and medical, but it will all be tied together in the end.
The financial aspect is the super glue, the cement, that is the foundation and sticks it all together .

Im going to have to disagree with the AI part of it. I dont see it that way. I also think the majority of the populace is already being dumbed down by the no child left behind act and the lack of discipline makes it even worse but thats a longer, deeper discussion. I think AI is a tool to be used and how you use it effects you differently. I could use it to remind myself of simple things and possibly lose muscle memory or I could just use it how its suppose to be used - as a learning tool. I believe dumb or unintelligent is an inability to learn. If im learning from it, it only stands to reason I wouldnt be "dumbing down" right? Perhaps moderation is the key. I wouldnt know, I dont use AI as much as I suspect most do. From a cyber security standpoint AI is a very helpful tool from finding unsanitized code to analyzing attack methodologies and prevention to better guard against future attacks. How you use something matters. I hope your message reaches the ears that do need to hear it, the ones that may use it improperly are in for a rude awakening if they are even self aware enough in the end to care. I dont believe its going to be forced into my life in a way that I will no longer have a choice and because of that it will have a negative impact. Thats kind of reaching at this point and I dont believe the powers that be will poison their own drinking well. Just stay frosty and it'll be alright.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

it starts with improved surveillance, lot more data, tracking and verification going on with each transaction. Identity, fraud and other regulatory checks happening in real time. 

As for where developers like the World Economic Forum and Blackrock are headed as the time nears to update the underlying financial infrastructure, XRP, HBAR, XDC and XLM are some that have received ISO accreditation. Ahead of the pack when it come to implementing corporate wide, enterprise solutions.

 The concentration camp problems start when the WhO starts pushing around new regulations as a new pandemic is declared or some other new government / corporate regulation emerges with some risks and unanswered questions. With the corporate in control of the main payment systems world wide, it is a lot of leverage to bring in conflicts between the state and the individual.

Most centralized exchanges identify you *very thoroughly* for the SEC at account creation and validation, at least in America. Also, the IRS has tax forms for it on your income. There are also decentralized exchanges where you dont have to do any of that, and by developers i was referring to crypto developers im not quite clear what developers you were referring to. There isnt fraud because everyone has the same ledger. Also, I dont see what a physical ailment has to do with a digital world with digital currency and digital products. I explain crypto pretty thoroughly in my cryptology thread about its utility. It has amazing utility I like Cardano for its utility and apparently so does NASA. XRP is pretty cool because of its speed and how little it costs per exchange in fees compared to fiat currency which is why its being implemented and it was just recently made legal for banks to utilize it. This world is coming. Its already here. Its not as scary as it looks. Hell, denyignorance.com even takes bitcoin donations

[sahgwa]

Im going to have to disagree with the AI part of it. I dont see it that way. I also think the majority of the populace is already being dumbed down by the no child left behind act and the lack of discipline makes it even worse but thats a longer, deeper discussion. I think AI is a tool to be used and how you use it effects you differently. I could use it to remind myself of simple things and possibly lose muscle memory or I could just use it how its suppose to be used - as a learning tool. I believe dumb or unintelligent is an inability to learn. If im learning from it, it only stands to reason I wouldnt be "dumbing down" right? Perhaps moderation is the key. I wouldnt know, I dont use AI as much as I suspect most do. From a cyber security standpoint AI is a very helpful tool from finding unsanitized code to analyzing attack methodologies and prevention to better guard against future attacks. How you use something matters. I hope your message reaches the ears that do need to hear it, the ones that may use it improperly are in for a rude awakening if they are even self aware enough in the end to care. I dont believe its going to be forced into my life in a way that I will no longer have a choice and because of that it will have a negative impact. Thats kind of reaching at this point and I dont believe the powers that be will poison their own drinking well. Just stay frosty and it'll be alright.

I use AI for language learning, translating foreign novels and then memorising vocab that way. so it is useful! Far faster to take a single photo, rather than flipping back and forth with the dictionary every other sentence.  So yes its all in how you use it.  
But the average person goes for the lizard brain lazy convenience of anything. They would say 'why learn a language when I can just read it on my phone?' 
Which leads me to cell phones. We never needed tracking chips. People just carry their trackers on them, including probably mind altering broadcasts.....