The Dendera 'Light bulb'

[sahgwa]

The relief is a multi-part depiction of the creation of the universe. Its a snake being born out of lotus flower in the cosmic woom from the primordial sea. . Its a 4 part series in The Temple of Hathor.

And its also why you dont let Erick Von Daniken speculate and get away with it.

That is true , but per my previous post can't there be multiple layers of meaning?

Horus as a form of the Sun could also be representing not just divine light and lux, but also plasma or electricity!

[ArMaP]

Boa tarde!

These are often arguments bandied about for decades.
Now that we have more organic and biodegradable technology, I think it's possible that some electricity creation could have been available but lost to decay.  Our power poles and wires are wood and copper, copper corrodes and disperses to dust, wood of course rots.  The fact we found the Baghdad battery is just luck.

1 - We don't know if the Baghdad battery was used as a battery (I doubt it was);
2 - Egyptians used copper in several different alloys for many tools and many survived, so it would be likely that some copper used for electrical purposes would be found;

How do you think they saw in the tombs and temples far away from sunlight to carve, in the absence of soot from fire?

Not all fuels give soot, and even those that do, like petrol, do not leave that much of a trace if they are not close to the ceiling. I know that personally because for many years, in my youth, my Summer vacations were mostly spent on my grandmother's house, and it didn't have electricity, so we use petrol lamps and small oil lamps.

[sahgwa]

1 - We don't know if the Baghdad battery was used as a battery (I doubt it was);
2 - Egyptians used copper in several different alloys for many tools and many survived, so it would be likely that some copper used for electrical purposes would be found;


Not all fuels give soot, and even those that do, like petrol, do not leave that much of a trace if they are not close to the ceiling. I know that personally because for many years, in my youth, my Summer vacations were mostly spent on my grandmother's house, and it didn't have electricity, so we use petrol lamps and small oil lamps.

Petrol or oil would leave black soot marks which are not present though!  Think of the time it takes to carve stone. The lamps would be there a while.
However stone could be scrubbed clean...perhaps...hmmm

Heres some recent anecdotes
https://www.christianforums.com/threads/...t.5654292/

[ArMaP]

Petrol or oil would leave black soot marks which are not present though!  Think of the time it takes to carve stone. The lamps would be there a while.

As I said, a petrol lamp did not leave any soot marks after being used for several years, every night, during a couple of months every year, and it gave enough light for us to eat, read and play cards.

If you keep the wick trimmed it makes a lot of difference, as it will be mostly the petrol burning and not the wick.

[Hanslune]

The Egyptians used  two methods to avoid soot - castor oil, which is remarkably free of soot. Second while drawing/carving in places like the Valley of Kings where the tunnels/rooms couldn't be left open like in pyramids/above ground buildings they used two methods to keep soot from collecting on the ceiling and sides, they either smeared it with mud or put up textile barriers, these caught any soot, and were removed once the artist was finished.

Additionally: as found the so called Baghdad 'batteries' wouldn't generate electricity. They'd have to modified using modern knowledge to do that. There is no evidence they did that.

[rickymouse]

I have no clue what that picture is. 


They supposedly had some types of lights minors strapped to their heads to illuminate what they were working on back then.  What those lamps were using for fuel still has not been fully verified.  Probably oil or something like Kerosine or something. 

The saying of the third eye, the eye of RA may have been related to those head lamps.  I am sure the rulers of the empires had those...maybe those were the snake shaped headwear they wore.

Just speculation of what pictures like this might represent...really do not know.

[Hanslune]

I have no clue what that picture is. 


They supposedly had some types of lights minors strapped to their heads to illuminate what they were working on back then.  What those lamps were using for fuel still has not been fully verified.  Probably oil or something like Kerosine or something. 

The saying of the third eye, the eye of RA may have been related to those head lamps.  I am sure the rulers of the empires had those...maybe those were the snake shaped headwear they wore.

Just speculation of what pictures like this might represent...really do not know.

Animal fat or vegetable oil. Kerosene is made through the fractional distillation of crude oil first done in 1846 AD

[sahgwa]

Animal fat or vegetable oil. Kerosene is made through the fractional distillation of crude oil first done in 1846 AD

Do you have any thoughts on this guys device, and did you watch it operate? 
The plasma aspects and similarity to the carving are interesting.

[ArMaP]

The plasma aspects and similarity to the carving are interesting.

He was trying to make something that looked similar with (I suppose) today's technology, it's natural that it looks similar.

PS: I didn't watch the video.

[Harte]

I have discovered that "celebrities" who debunk things are not adding to any conversations... just trying to stop them.

There has always been an element of "convenience" to the narratives accompanying artifacts and tales... it seems always to limit any speculation to those celebrities and no one else.  It's a cloister thing....

I have absolutely no doubt that some tried and true dogmatic understandings we have of Egyptology are no less an imaginative characterization than the ideas they routinely 'debunk,' since it wasn't their narrative... it cannot be allowed to have standing value... it must not be corrected, it must be attacked.

That 'manner' of institutional scholarship is poison.... yet it rules the day, doesn't it?

Before your foot goes all the way down your throat, it might be a good idea to maybe make some small effort to learn at least something about this subject, on which you are so ignorant.
For example, the temple is Ptolemaic, and the Egyptians of that period wrote the description of what's in that artwork RIGHT THERE ON THE SAME WALL JUST ABOVE IT.
See, nobody is trying to stop any conversation. They are simply trying to help you keep from humiliating yourself in front of the entire world.
Seems they've failed, eh?

Harte