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The Covid mRNA Jabs are NOT Vaccines!
#31
(12-09-2025, 02:04 AM)chr0naut Wrote: [...]

Also, mRNA technology utilizes the cellular transcription mechanisms to create amino-acid chains (proteins) according to the template of an RNA sequence, but it does not make any changes to human genes.

Each cell has numerous ribosomes which transcribe RNA into all sorts of things neccessary to our biochemistry, but these ribosomes exist outside of the cell's nucleous, where the DNA is housed.

RNA normally cannot breach the barrier to get back into the nucleous of the cell. The barrier is fairly one-way, with RNA coming out from the nucleous but blocked from going back. It would require a special enzyme called a reverse-transcriptase to take RNA back into the nucleous where it might possibly react with DNA. The mRNA immunizations don't have any reverse transcriptases and so they cannot even come into proximity of the DNA in the cell, and so they cannot alter any genes.

[...]

I still have some suspicion that some influencial people took the opportunity to fasten human trials of the mRNA technology. I've looked around articles between 2005 and 2018, and there were quite a few about its potential on cancer treatment and such. For example, this one.

I went on wayback machine to look for it, but the first screenshot is from March 2020. It doesn't really mean anything by itself, but I found that interesting.

Seems quite possible that a few opportunists would take the liberty to try to push mRNA more than the other vaccines to gather as much data as possible during the 'crisis'.
As far as the apple tree is concerned, there's probably not much difference between a worm and a human...
Et le ver en dit : - Il y a toujours un pépin dans la pomme...
#32
At this point this is ludicrous. They are going to do another "attempt" to disclose the origins of Covid.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/defe...el-chinese

The book "The Confessions of Anthony Fauci" by Robert Kennedy 111 details the involvement of various people and agencies in the plot. 

Here's a couple of nuggets from the Appendix which is evidence from Fauci's diary.

Page 262 October 18, 2019 Evidence Case# AF152 Item # 67

"Event 201, NYC
They say it's a tabletop exercise.
But it's more like a read- through.
John Hopkins, Gates, WEF- lots of people
using the word 'resilience'.
Scenario? Coronavirus, zoonotic, jumps in
a food market, destabilizes global supply
chains.
We spend two hours workshopping how to
crush "disinformation".
We spend zero time on how to contain a
virus- it's all about how to contain the 
public reaction.

NO INFORMATION OF WUHAN.
But the framework is all there.
Censorship coordination.
Unified messaging.
Trusted messengers.

NOBOCY ASKS WHY THIS EXERCISE APPEARED NOW.
I ALREADY KNOW."
#33
(12-09-2025, 02:20 PM)Thoughtful3 Wrote: The book "The Confessions of Anthony Fauci" by Robert Kennedy 111 details the involvement of various people and agencies in the plot. 

You take nut-job Robert Kennedy seriously?   Shocked2

I'll stick with Fauci.
#34
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-con...1148277656

Evidence from page 263.

November 1, 2019 Item #69

"Bethesda

Rumors from the PREDICT network.
Yunnan team collected a new strain
in October- "Concerning binding
behavior".
Daszak has the sequence. WIV has
the sample.

No one at UC Davis saying anything.
Metabiota's logs show cold-chain transfer
to Wuhan completed October 27.

WE SENT THEM THE FIREWOOD.
WE SENT THE MATCH.
NOW I'M WAITING FOR SMOKE."

November 12, 2019  Item #71

"Off book meeting.

DARPA'S tracking movement
around WIV.
Low-level chatter flagged by intel.
"dead researchers, "internal
lockdown, "respiratory failure".

I ask if we have any sequence data.
He says we had it- and then EcoHealth
pulled the plug.

Daszak is suddenly very interested in
WHO  press strategy.

I DON'T SAY IT OUTLOUD, BUT
IT'S ALREADY OUT."

The only reason that I can think of that he would document such incriminating details is because he is arragant and never believed he would be held accountable.
#35
(12-09-2025, 02:32 PM)Thoughtful3 Wrote: The only reason that I can think of that he would document such incriminating details is because he is arragant and never believed he would be held accountable.

I'm a little bit worried that you've been repeated told that is a fictionalized satire, written by Kennedy III and not Faucci, yet you still make statements like this.
#36
(12-09-2025, 02:23 PM)ANNEE Wrote: You take nut-job Robert Kennedy seriously?   Shocked2

I'll stick with Fauci.

This is not the same Kennedy. 

BTW Have you read RFK Jr's book "The Real Anthony Fauci- Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health".

Regardless of what one's position on his policies, he brings up some very interesting information.
For example some very, very damaging information about the drug Remdesivir that Fauci made as standard of care in hospitals. The drug that harmed and killed patients suffering from Covid- fondly named "Run Death Is Near."
Very serious claims about Bill Gates as well. If what he claims is false why haven't they sued him for liable Question
#37
(12-09-2025, 02:35 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: I'm a little bit worried that you've been repeated told that is a fictionalized satire, written by Kennedy III and not Faucci, yet you still make statements like this.

I have double and triple checked the material that he has presented in his book. I had wondered how the publisher would get around having this published without it being censored. Humor and satire are a very good method of presenting disturbing information.

  I find the timing of the release of this book and now the start up of another hunt for the Origins of Covid
very  Sniff
Again if the claims he makes are lies why hasn't he been sued or the book withdrawn Question

When the book "Careless People" by Sahara Wynn- Williams, the Facebook whistleblower, came out, Facebook went on a full out attack to have the book censored and if she said their name she would face a $50K fine each time. Once again the date of this books release leaves me  Sniff . March 11, 2025- March 11 was when the WHO declared the plandemic.
#38
In an effort to provide a more balanced view I also have Fauci's book "On Call" which he delves into his career, his involvement with HIV/AIDS, Zika, Ebola, Avian Flu and Covid-19.

This book was published June 18, 2024. 450 pages.

Page 4/23 -
"As it stands, the origin of SARS- CoV 2 remains uncertain, and there are still heated discussions over whether it was the result of a "lab leak" or was a natural spillover from an animal reservoir to humans, as could have occurred in the Hunana wet markets of Wuhan, where exotic animals were brought in for sale.

As for the lab leak hypothesis, the most commonly discussed scenario is that Chinese scientists were working on on viruses from the wild that accidently infected one of them and then spread outside the lab to cause the Covid pandemic. We in the United States cannot account for all the research that takes place in Wuhan or in the rest of China. That is why I, as I have stated publicly, we must keep an open mind to the origin of Covid, as I do."

 Question

Melinda Gates first book published April 23, 2019.
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-mom...1129049662

What about gain-of-function? Fauci appears to have a different definition from what most of us understand.

Page 391-392

There was enormous concerns about Fauci providing interviews to the media or doing "fireside" chats. 
"I had participated in a fireside chat for Georgetown University that happened to be picked up by CNN and other networks. I had said that in some respects the current pandemic had the potential to be comparable to the 1918 influenza pandemic in its global scope and magnitude. Meadows called Francis Collins, my administrative boss, and yelled at him about my statement, saying I was making things sound worse than they were. 

Fauci at this point was banned from providing interviews with the media so he reached out to Sanjay Gupta to have him clarify the message.

"Meadows called back two hours later to say he wanted me to retract a statement he heard I made the incubation period for Covid was longer than fourteen days."

That was when I realized that Meadows and the White House communications people were tracking my every word- and not only what I said, but what others said that I said. I thought the president's chief of staff should have had more important activities to tend to during a global pandemic that was killing a lot of Americans than monitoring my media appearances in which I was trying to give the American public the unfiltered truth."  


Page 399-
"Kellyanne Conway jumped in to instruct us that we could say what we believed was correct, but if it contradicted the president, the White House needed to hear about in the Oval Office, or the Situation Room and not hear about it the first time on TV."

"Okay Mr. President, I said looking straight at him. "We are now in the Oval Office and so you need to hear it directly from us, increased testing does not cause cases. When you increase testing, you will of course pick up asymptomatics whom you might not otherwise notice."

"I COULD NOT BE FIRED AS NIAID DIRECTOR WITHOUT PROVING SERIOUS CAUSE, A WHOLE SEPARATE PROCEDURE OVER WHICH HE [TRUMP] HAD NO CONTROL."
#39
(12-09-2025, 02:40 PM)Thoughtful3 Wrote: This is not the same Kennedy. 

BTW Have you read RFK Jr's book "The Real Anthony Fauci- Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health".

I support science. 

I normally avoid these type threads. 

I’m out of here.
#40
(12-09-2025, 02:40 PM)Thoughtful3 Wrote: This is not the same Kennedy. 

BTW Have you read RFK Jr's book "The Real Anthony Fauci- Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health".

Regardless of what one's position on his policies, he brings up some very interesting information.
For example some very, very damaging information about the drug Remdesivir that Fauci made as standard of care in hospitals. The drug that harmed and killed patients suffering from Covid- fondly named "Run Death Is Near."
Very serious claims about Bill Gates as well. If what he claims is false why haven't they sued him for liable Question

Can you give any hard numbers for how many people died from the use of remdesivir as a therapeutic to treat COVID-19 between 2019-2022? Because there seems to be a number of studies that say that Remdesivir reduced mortality in that period.

Association of Remdesivir Treatment With Mortality Among Hospitalized Adults With COVID-19 in the United States

Effect of remdesivir on mortality and the need for mechanical ventilation among hospitalized patients with COVID-19: real-world data from a resource-limited country

Remdesivir is Associated with Reduced Mortality in Patients Hospitalized for COVID-19 Not Requiring Supplemental Oxygen

It is interesting that many of those who continue to broadcast unsubstantiated negative reports about remdesivir are the same who promoted ivermectin and other non-cures as a treatment or a preventative for COVID-19.

Toxic Effects from Ivermectin Use Associated with Prevention and Treatment of Covid-19

Exposures to Bleach, Peroxide, Disinfectants, Antimalarials, and Ivermectin Reported to the California Poison Control System Before and During the COVID-19 Pandemic, 2015-2021

Rising Ivermectin Poisonings Across the US

Ivermectin toxicity and misuse during the COVID-19 pandemic

Think about this; there are very many people who have died unneccesarily because they believed the conspiracy theories (which, in the hindsight of several years, we know have not actually occurred - i.e. no enslavement, no changes to our diet, no regime change, no megadeaths, no losses of freedom) that denied the advice of the medical majority, denied the advice of government health departments, denied the scientific evidence, and blamed big pharma for things that never occurred.

All that online BS really killed people.

If anyone was evil through all this, it is those that made their bit of notoriety, money and fame out of promoting the outrageous, the stupid and the dangerous.
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