The Anti-AI Thread

[Playswithmachine]

I can add a few more to that.
It is a HUGE waste of energy, expertise, and materials. Every time some idiot asks AI to make a dancing cat video, it uses up the energy equivalent of burning a few trees. Just so that someone can get a few likes on Tiktok.

Soon, the entire planet will be covered in data centres, using up all the resources & energy.
To do what?
Make some nonsensical films, write BS text, or make cringe YT thumbnails. And that last one is annoying as hell, everybody is doing it.
It's just being lazy, non-inspiring, and benefits no-one.

Already there are less humans & more bots on the net. Soon it will just be bots arguing with bots, and the humans will become extinct, since we will have nowhere to live & nothing to eat.
Still want your dancing cat video's?
I'm sure you can get along fine without them.

[sahgwa]

Garbage in, garbage out.

Good riddance to AI
Down with AI

Overblown search engine memory-creativity-imagination-stealing-toaster

AI is cannibalising itself and falling apart.  Die faster, artificial non-intelligence!

https://futurism.com/ai-models-falling-apart

So if AI is going to run out of training data — or it has already — and plugging it up to the internet doesn't work because the internet is now full of AI slop, where do we go from here? Vaughn-Nichols notes that some folks have suggested mixing authentic and synthetic to produce a heady cocktail of good AI training data — but that would require humans to keep creating real content for training data, and the AI industry is actively undermining the incentive structures fo them to continue — while pilfering their work without permission, of course.
A third option, Vaughn-Nichols predicts, appears to already be in motion.
"We're going to invest more and more in AI, right up to the point that model collapse hits hard and AI answers are so bad even a brain-dead CEO can't ignore it," he wrote.

[sahgwa]

MIT admits that AI IS MAKING YOU STUPID

They just say 'please dont use words like stupid'

Conclusion of the study finished this month:

Over four months, LLM users consistently underperformed at neural, linguistic, and behavioral levels. These results raise concerns about the long-term educational implications of LLM reliance and underscore the need for deeper inquiry into AI's role in learning.



And that's putting it mildly. 

Here is a video summary




Here is the paper:
https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.08872

[BeyondKnowledge]

I have read several reports on Google News about CEOs rethinking the whole AI thing in businesses.  They were sold the idea that they could replace whole departments with AI and none of it is working as claimed. Many are hiring people to replace the AI systems. When the profits drop, things tend to change quickly. 

AI can't handle most customer complaints or make consistently profitable decisions.

[sahgwa]

I have read several reports on Google News about CEOs rethinking the whole AI thing in businesses.  They were sold the idea that they could replace while departments with AI and none of it is working as claimed. Many are hiring people to replace the AI systems. When the profits drop, things tend to change quickly. 

AI can't handle most customer complaints or make consistently profitable decisions.

That's good news and not surprising. Happened fast too.  I wonder how long 'the good momentum ' can keep up.

Unfortunately in health care it is a huge push, all the way from schedulers, insurance people,  to PA's and MA's for dictation and DIAGNOSING to doctors. terrible.

[RichardHurt]

I can add a few more to that.
It is a HUGE waste of energy, expertise, and materials. Every time some idiot asks AI to make a dancing cat video, it uses up the energy equivalent of burning a few trees. Just so that someone can get a few likes on Tiktok.

Soon, the entire planet will be covered in data centres, using up all the resources & energy.
To do what?
Make some nonsensical films, write BS text, or make cringe YT thumbnails. And that last one is annoying as hell, everybody is doing it.
It's just being lazy, non-inspiring, and benefits no-one.

Already there are less humans & more bots on the net. Soon it will just be bots arguing with bots, and the humans will become extinct, since we will have nowhere to live & nothing to eat.
Still want your dancing cat video's?
I'm sure you can get along fine without them.

I have got my AI in all my systems to use a fraction of what most use energy wise to produce things from securities updates to image and video generation depending on the needs of others. This idea that AI is using mass amounts of energy unnecessarily is not entirely true. It's kinda like the argument that we as sheep are the ones polluting the environment. Sure that may be true but not on scale with the government usage. 

My goal is to go beyond just using AI as a tool. I'm building the infrastructure myself to truly explore its capabilities, from a powerful server all the way down to a tiny single-board computer. It's about practical, hands-on development to stay at the forefront of what's possible. And it is possible to use such powerful tools with power consumption at a minimum. The massive, headline-grabbing energy figures are almost exclusively associated with training large, foundational models from scratch. This is the process where companies like Google, OpenAI, and Meta feed petabytes of data into enormous neural networks for weeks or months, using thousands of high-powered GPUs in hyperscale data centers. This is the "government/corporate scale" pollution.

[BeyondKnowledge]

That's good news and not surprising. Happened fast too.  I wonder how long 'the good momentum ' can keep up.

Unfortunately in health care it is a huge push, all the way from schedulers, insurance people,  to PA's and MA's for dictation and DIAGNOSING to doctors. terrible.

Like any medical tool, AI can cure or kill. I think it can cure but will kill when misusesd. Then it will be regulated to the roles it is useful for. 

We did not know how to use radioactive materials and x-rays to cure not too long ago. They caused some deaths but both are medically useful. 

Many shoe salesmen and watch makers lost out in that learning time.

[quintessentone]

"85 million jobs are estimated to be displaced globally by AI and automation by the end of 2025, according to the World Economic Forum. In the US, 2.4 million jobs were impacted by AI-driven automation between 2020 and 2024, with another 1.1 million projected to be disrupted in 2025 alone."

"In contrast, AI is predicted to create 97 million new roles globally in areas like digital marketing, cybersecurity, and software development by 2025."

AI Job Loss Statistics 2025: Who's Losing, Who’s Hiring, etc. - SQ Magazine

As for dumbing down humanity, didn't video game playing already do that?

[sahgwa]

"85 million jobs are estimated to be displaced globally by AI and automation by the end of 2025, according to the World Economic Forum. In the US, 2.4 million jobs were impacted by AI-driven automation between 2020 and 2024, with another 1.1 million projected to be disrupted in 2025 alone."

"In contrast, AI is predicted to create 97 million new roles globally in areas like digital marketing, cybersecurity, and software development by 2025."

AI Job Loss Statistics 2025: Who's Losing, Who’s Hiring, etc. - SQ Magazine

As for dumbing down humanity, didn't video game playing already do that?

Of course a website run by people dedicated to reviewing software and thus have a vested interest in the positive side of software like AI are going to 'predict' positive growth for jobs under AI, it behooves them.

And as for video games, the dumbing down is just one step at a time.  Now it's video shorts of less than a minute and AI, pretty soon Idiocracy will be mild prediction and Wall-E and blank-look scared-sheep nonverbal drooling will be the norm.

Are you saying it's fine that we are being dumbed down, since it's already happened in the past? 

I find it hilarious that MIT has to put pleading caveats on their study saying 'please don't use words like stupid'  when that's exactly what their findings show!
Also telling is the side-stepping and attempting at mitigation by only calling out 'education' spheres in the conclusion and not total usage of AI in general. 

You can use it sparingly and responsibly, like I am using it to translate and then still memorising new vocabulary, or you can have it do everything for you from creation to presentation and be totally nullified as a human.

[quintessentone]

Of course a website run by people dedicated to reviewing software and thus have a vested interest in the positive side of software like AI are going to 'predict' positive growth for jobs under AI, it behooves them.

And as for video games, the dumbing down is just one step at a time.  Now it's video shorts of less than a minute and AI, pretty soon Idiocracy will be mild prediction and Wall-E and blank-look scared-sheep nonverbal drooling will be the norm.

Are you saying it's fine that we are being dumbed down, since it's already happened in the past? 

I find it hilarious that MIT has to put pleading caveats on their study saying 'please don't use words like stupid'  when that's exactly what their findings show!
Also telling is the side-stepping and attempting at mitigation by only calling out 'education' spheres in the conclusion and not total usage of AI in general. 

You can use it sparingly and responsibly, like I am using it to translate and then still memorising new vocabulary, or you can have it do everything for you from creation to presentation and be totally nullified as a human.

Did I say in my post that's 'it's fine'?

What about dumbing down education by rewriting history and now allowing life's realities to be shown?