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12-17-2024, 11:18 AM
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Son of Concorde supersonic jet hits new speed record – but 3.5hr passenger flights from London to NYC face delay
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/32326794/s...ondon-nyc/
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A bit misleading but what do you expect from journalists. It’s a new record for XB-1, which is slowly increasing towards mach 1. They’re hoping to get one more flight this year to hit 0.9 with supersonic flight early next year.
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12-18-2024, 09:34 AM
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(12-17-2024, 04:33 PM)Zaphod58 Wrote: A bit misleading but what do you expect from journalists. It’s a new record for XB-1, which is slowly increasing towards mach 1. They’re hoping to get one more flight this year to hit 0.9 with supersonic flight early next year.
How are we misled by the reporting when they specifically said it is a new record for this particular aircraft?
Is it the name 'Son of Concorde'? Who named or nicknamed it that and why?
Is the son of concorde not an XB-1? If it is, then they are claiming that this aircraft did indeed set a new record.
Perhaps you can explain why you think the reporting is misleading, because I don't get where they are misleading anyone. Except maybe that this aircraft has absolutely no traits, parts or design related to the concorde. (?)
Concorde, 1986
Son of Concorde
![[Image: sonofconcorde.jpg]](https://denyignorance.com/uploader/images/sonofconcorde.jpg)
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12-18-2024, 12:21 PM
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(12-18-2024, 09:34 AM)quintessentone Wrote: How are we misled by the reporting when they specifically said it is a new record for this particular aircraft?
The headline is: JET SETTER ‘Son of Concorde’ supersonic jet hits new speed record – but 3.5hr passenger flights from London to NYC face delay
It's misleading because there's no mention of it being a record for this airframe in test flights. And it's also misleading because the XB-1 is never going to carry passengers. The XB-1 is nothing but a technology demonstrator and is laying the ground work for Overture, which is the one that WILL carry passengers, but is going to be a totally different airframe.
The XB-1 program is going great, and they're going to livestream the supersonic flight next year which will be fun to watch, but it has very little to do with 3.5 hour flights from NYC to London, and it certainly didn't set a new speed record except for that specific airframe.
Also, both of your Son of Concorde pics are the X-59, which hasn't flown yet, and is the QueSST. It's currently in ground testing at Palmdale, and will fly sometime next year.
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12-18-2024, 12:39 PM
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(12-18-2024, 12:21 PM)Zaphod58 Wrote: The headline is: JET SETTER ‘Son of Concorde’ supersonic jet hits new speed record – but 3.5hr passenger flights from London to NYC face delay
It's misleading because there's no mention of it being a record for this airframe in test flights. And it's also misleading because the XB-1 is never going to carry passengers. The XB-1 is nothing but a technology demonstrator and is laying the ground work for Overture, which is the one that WILL carry passengers, but is going to be a totally different airframe.
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...flight.jpg]
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...dering.jpg]
The XB-1 program is going great, and they're going to livestream the supersonic flight next year which will be fun to watch, but it has very little to do with 3.5 hour flights from NYC to London, and it certainly didn't set a new speed record except for that specific airframe.
Also, both of your Son of Concorde pics are the X-59, which hasn't flown yet, and is the QueSST. It's currently in ground testing at Palmdale, and will fly sometime next year.
So this demonstrator will lay the groundwork for Overture, as you say. So, can I assume the groundwork for Overture will be similar if not the same as this demonstrator? Considering it will be made by the same company, does it not stand to reason that the same technologies/designs will be used?
Does the XB-1 have the 'Symphony' engine?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boom_Symphony
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boom_Overture
Yeah, what I was going for with the pics I posted was design similarities that could explain the nickname 'son of concorde'.
I am very impressed with this development in future passenger travel.
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(12-18-2024, 12:39 PM)quintessentone Wrote: So this demonstrator will lay the groundwork for Overture, as you say. So, can I assume the groundwork for Overture will be similar if not the same as this demonstrator? Considering it will be made by the same company, does it not stand to reason that the same technologies/designs will be used?
The Symphony engine hasn't been developed yet. They only just got the funding raised to build the first one. The XB-1 uses a trio of J85 engines. The only groundwork would be the technology used to build Overture. There are going to be very few similarities between the two beyond construction.
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12-20-2024, 09:03 AM
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(12-18-2024, 01:08 PM)Zaphod58 Wrote: The Symphony engine hasn't been developed yet. They only just got the funding raised to build the first one. The XB-1 uses a trio of J85 engines. The only groundwork would be the technology used to build Overture. There are going to be very few similarities between the two beyond construction.
I'm not getting the disconnect. Are you saying the XB-1 technology (demonstrator) will be used to develop Overture?
The manufacturing company is claiming the same as the media source.
https://boomsupersonic.com/press-release...r-aircraft
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12-20-2024, 02:06 PM
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(12-20-2024, 09:03 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I'm not getting the disconnect. Are you saying the XB-1 technology (demonstrator) will be used to develop Overture?
The manufacturing company is claiming the same as the media source.
https://boomsupersonic.com/press-release...r-aircraft
The construction technology and materials will be used for Overture. The XB-1 was built using the construction techniques and materials that will be used for Overture, and these flights are the verification of both of those.
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