Shoot a gun in America as a Brit and see what happens

[andy06shake]

That was decades ago.

I'm looking to really retire soon.  A cottage in the Cotswolds would be perfect.  A five minute walk to the local and a 25 minute walk back would be even better.

But you know how I post.

I wouldn't last 5 minutes in the UK now.

You would be fine DB, and fit right in. 

Don't believe the hype.

Again, there will be far more to this than meets the eye.

Else, he and his would be screaming from the rooftops as to the why of it all and the sheer injustice of the matter.

You don't plead to terrorist charges unless there is a very good reason, and that fella did just that. 

If it had been ISIS manifestos, some 18-year-old radicalized Muslim was handing out, outside a mosque.

I imagine there would be a completely different spin on the matter, put it that way.

But a story is a story, and if it makes the news, generates the clicks....

[DBCowboy]

You would be fine DB, and fit right in. 

Don't believe the hype.

Again, there will be far more to this than meets the eye.

Else, he and his would be screaming from the rooftops as to the why of it all and the sheer injustice of the matter.

You don't plead to terrorist charges unless there is a very good reason, and that fella did just that. 

If it had been ISIS manifestos, some 18-year-old radicalized Muslim was handing out, outside a mosque.

I imagine there would be a completely different spin on the matter, put it that way.

But a story is a story, and if it makes the news, generates the clicks....

Just to have a pint and a smoke with all the old geezers, that's the life.

[andy06shake]

Just to have a pint and a smoke with all the old geezers, that's the life.

An expensive place to stay, but full of all sorts of quintessential English countryside

I imagine a lot of little towns in the Cotswolds will indeed accommodate exactly that sort of quiet lifestyle. 

[DBCowboy]

An expensive place to stay, but full of all sorts of quintessential English countryside

I imagine a lot of little towns in the Cotswolds will indeed accommodate exactly that sort of quiet lifestyle. 

Growing up in the UK I fell in love with the Cotswolds.

We'd do horseback riding, fox hunting.

In my youth even had a small dalliance with a stable girl.

[Kurokage]

If it had been ISIS manifestos, some 18-year-old radicalized Muslim was handing out, outside a mosque.

I imagine there would be a completely different spin on the matter, put it that way.

But a story is a story, and if it makes the news, generates the clicks....

I think if this had been a radicalized Muslim then the same people complaining about an over zealous police would be complaining why didn't they act sooner. 

[bastion]

He pled guilty to the three charges Sky727.

One count of distributing recordings and two counts of possessing recordings.

People don't do that unless they are indeed guilty.

I mean, I'm not quite sure what the material was, i can't see where it goes into specifics, which may quite possibly be for good reason.

Stab in the dark, the recordings could have had heavy sectarian leanings, or inciting racial hatred or violence. 

Im wondering if there were other charges and this was part of a plea deal?

What else did they find when they searched his property springs to mind.

Edit: Looking into it a little further, the reason for the custodial is probably because courts see distribution "as actively enabling radicalisation."

They treat it similarly to disseminating ISIS material, with a typical sentence of 3 to 5 years, even for first-time offenders.

From the sounds of it he was selling Screwdriver/Combat 18/Blood and Honour label stuff which is illegal as they've been a proscribed neo-nazi terror org since the London Nail Bombings (and as you explain the same laws make it illegal to sell text/audio promoting Islamic terror groups).

He was head of a £200,000 worldwide 'music' network promoting racial hatred and anti-semitism with the intention of causing terror attacks against these groups rather than it being an innocent case of having non-PC, right wing or far-right wing music as Count Dankula falsely portrays it as.

https://www.thelawpages.com/court-cases/...4273-1.law

There must be more to the photo with guns case as the UK has no jurisdiction over US firearms laws and it would only be relevant to UK law/policing if there was clear/reasonable intent that the gun posts were made as a clear threat to the person(s) he's accused/guilty of stalking.

[andy06shake]

From the sounds of it he was selling Screwdriver/Combat 18/Blood and Honour label stuff which is illegal as they've been a proscribed neo-nazi terror org since the London Nail Bombings (and as you explain the same laws make it illegal to sell text/audio promoting Islamic terror groups).

He was head of a £200,000 worldwide 'music' network promoting racial hatred and anti-semitism with the intention of causing terror attacks against these groups rather than it being an innocent case of having non-PC, right wing or far-right wing music as Count Dankula falsely portrays it as.

https://www.thelawpages.com/court-cases/...4273-1.law

There must be more to the photo with guns case as the UK has no jurisdiction over US firearms laws and it would only be relevant to UK law/policing if there was clear/reasonable intent that the gun posts were made as a clear threat to the person(s) he's accused/guilty of stalking.

Cheers for the additional information bastion.

Sounds like a neo-nazi piece of filth making a significant amount of money off other neo-nazi's.

So no harm, no foul, on part of the crown. 

As to the guns case, im thinking something along the same lines as Kurokage. 

He's possibly sent pictures of himself holding the guns to an ex-partner or spouse.

Which they may have perceived as some sort of offhanded threat.

If they were to contact authorities, they may well have investigated further.

[Moon68]

Cheers for the additional information bastion.

Sounds like a neo-nazi piece of filth making a significant amount of money off other neo-nazi's.

So no harm, no foul, on part of the crown. 

As to the guns case, im thinking something along the same lines as Kurokage. 

He's possibly sent pictures of himself holding the guns to an ex-partner or spouse.

Which they may have perceived as some sort of offhanded threat.

If they were to contact authorities, they may well have investigated further.

Seems all the posts were on his Linkedin page. One of the him holding a shotgun and another of an associate delivering a demand for payment that his company had been trying to get for months.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/british-ma...ip-florida

[Kurokage]

Seems all the posts were on his Linkedin page. One of the him holding a shotgun and another of an associate delivering a demand for payment that his company had been trying to get for months.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/british-ma...ip-florida

You should read the post from Bastion, as he has shown that the person has previous convictions and links to possible far right groups.

[Moon68]

You should read the post from Bastion, as he has shown that the person has previous convictions and links to possible far right groups.

I was referring to the gun case. 

You should pay attention.