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(12-03-2025, 07:52 AM)andy06shake Wrote: We are going to need more than picture methinks.
People say all sorts of things Elite.
But if they dont equate to proof of the tangible sorts.
Such as? I bet things I couldve told you 20 years ago would never be part of any disclosure.. couldve saved you the disapointment. There are significant national security risks invlolved. Project Manhattan pales in comparison.
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(12-03-2025, 07:56 AM)ElitePlebeian Wrote: Such as? I bet things I couldve told you 20 years ago would never be part of any disclosure.. couldve saved you the disapointment. There are significant national security risks invlolved. Project Manhattan pales in comparison.
Such as a spaceship full of alien lifeforms, radio signals, and communication, for all to see.
Of course, there are significant national security risks involved, i think i just pointed out the most glaring of such.
Which is why it will never happen short of Aliens being the ones to turn up and say hello.
And even then, we are back to the fear, fight, f@ck, or worship part.
We don't play nice with each other, never mind other species, we are the problem, not the existance of Aliens.
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(12-03-2025, 07:52 AM)ElitePlebeian Wrote: Lol you will never be happy with anything I feel.
And Rubio has already talked about way more than that so I doubt it.
I've followed all the supposed 'experts' for years and even the recent tic-tac and fast mover vids have there sceptics who can point to mundane explanations.
I would be over the moon if they actually came out and said we have definitive proof and hear it is! But I really don't see that happening any time soon.
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LOL, did long COVID kill our ability to suspend disbelief? Are newer generations lacking imaginative skills?
If you are 100% skeptical, guess what, Im 90% skeptical myself, but I come to DI to feed that 10% "What if?", not confirm the 90% skeptical part.
A skepticism that has been covered in every book, documentary, and website Ive ever read or watched. Certainly, it was covered on ATS
Been following myself since the Pascoula, Mississippi story in the 70s, well-versed on the fucking basics, and yes, I know IF REAL and it's not a fucking psyop/ or Trump's 1000th distraction from Epstein, there's plenty within the gubmint, and MIC that DO NOT want it released.
We've grown so jaded and skeptical here on a speculative and conspiratorial website.
Hell, somebody mentioned Reddit, actually, there are places on Reddit, Discord, and X that are much more informative, up to date, and less fucking skeptical than Deny Ignorance.
Places where I don't even have to post because there's so much there to read and sift through. Sure, some of it's BS, but some of it's not.
Regardless, this is the process we have government officials are talking publicly more than ever in my 60 years.
I find it interesting that government officials are letting this see the light of day.
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(12-03-2025, 10:27 AM)putnam6 Wrote: LOL, did long COVID kill our ability to suspend disbelief? Are newer generations lacking imaginative skills?
If you are 100% skeptical, guess what, Im 90% skeptical myself, but I come to DI to feed that 10% "What if?", not confirm the 90% skeptical part.
A skepticism that has been covered in every book, documentary, and website Ive ever read or watched. Certainly, it was covered on ATS
Been following myself since the Pascoula, Mississippi story in the 70s, well-versed on the fucking basics, and yes, I know IF REAL and it's not a fucking psyop/ or Trump's 1000th distraction from Epstein, there's plenty within the gubmint, and MIC that DO NOT want it released.
We've grown so jaded and skeptical here on a speculative and conspiratorial website.
Hell, somebody mentioned Reddit, actually, there are places on Reddit, Discord, and X that are much more informative, up to date, and less fucking skeptical than Deny Ignorance.
Places where I don't even have to post because there's so much there to read and sift through. Sure, some of it's BS, but some of it's not.
Regardless, this is the process we have government officials are talking publicly more than ever in my 60 years.
I find it interesting that government officials are letting this see the light of day.
I don't think our generations are losing imagination.
If anything, we're drowning in information.
It's nonstop data, hoaxes, psyops, and political noise.
In that kind of environment, skepticism becomes a survival instinct.
Long COVID didn't kill wonder, the internet did that.
And how, well that's simple.
By overwhelming people with half-truths and weaponised nonsense.
The alien claims get debunked, not because imagination died.
But because the evidence hasn't kept pace with the stories.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof putnam6.
And that's simply the way the cookie crumbles.
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(12-03-2025, 10:27 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Regardless, this is the process we have government officials are talking publicly more than ever in my 60 years.
I find it interesting that government officials are letting this see the light of day.
I also find it interesting.
But in the cold light of day, all they've really said is that there could possibly be something unexplained in all of this. After all the years of denial and turning the subject into a joke, do you honestly think they'll actually give us something real??
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(12-03-2025, 10:42 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I also find it interesting.
But in the cold light of day, all they've really said is that there could possibly be something unexplained in all of this. After all the years of denial and turning the subject into a joke, do you honestly think they'll actually give us something real??
I do not know, sure it's doubtful AF, but again, what if? and why the change after 80 years of denial?
We have government officials implying Roswell was real.
Why not continue the complete and total lockdown?
Well aware it will likely be a non-disclosure disclosure, but it's all the disclosure we have for the moment.
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(12-03-2025, 11:09 AM)putnam6 Wrote: I do not know, sure it's doubtful AF, but again, what if? and why the change after 80 years of denial?
We have government officials implying Roswell was real.
Why not continue the complete and total lockdown?
Well aware it will likely be a non-disclosure disclosure, but it's all the disclosure we have for the moment.
I mean, we can but hope.
But the real question would seem to be why release the information now?
What's different?
Because it's definitely not humanity's collecting sanity.
If anything, it's quite the opposite.
Hence, my ambivalence to believe "They" are on the level.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(12-03-2025, 11:14 AM)andy06shake Wrote: I mean, we can but hope.
But the real question would seem to be why release the information now?
What's different?
Because it's definitely not humanity's collecting sanity.
If anything, it's quite the opposite.
Hence, my ambivalence to believe "They" are on the level.
Yeah, that's likely the majority opinion, that opinion isn't ready for the conversation
Let's discuss the stock market, CFB playoffs, or the billion-dollar Somali scam in Walz's Minnesota
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(12-03-2025, 11:29 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Yeah, that's likely the majority opinion, that opinion isn't ready for the conversation
Let's discuss the stock market, CFB playoffs, or the billion-dollar Somali scam in Walz's Minnesota
And that's where we return to "don't look over there, look here, else you'll see what my hands are up to" shenanigans.
It's all misdirection and window dressing for the masses.
The problem is that the window dressing still has real-life implications for most of us.
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