05-31-2024, 11:43 AM
How the same military intelligence communities behind TTSA tried to bullsh•t everyone back in the day over the (supposedly scientific) Robertson panel and Condon Report.
• Statements on the 1953 Robertson UFO Panel:
• "By calling the Robertson Panel a scientific panel we really do an injustice to science itself. It's an insult to science to call the Robertson Panel anything other than an officially sanctioned cover up to put UFOs away from the public."
Researcher Richard Dolan describes the CIA Robertson Panel which led to the implementation of the military wide directive JANAP 146 which made the reporting of UFOs to the American public an act of espionage (fines of up to ten thousand dollars and/or one to ten years in prison).
Video
• "I get so mad when I read this, I am just appalled that any government official reading this kind of report could accept it. It seems to me that any responsible general or politician on reading something like this would demand further explanation."
Researcher John Keel on the full uncensored text of the CIA Robertson UFO Panel.
Video / PDF
• "They were in a very definite mood to debunk.. I would have had about as much chance of coming out and saying that I thought they were all wet as Galileo might have had satisfying or convincing the Inquisitors that the earth moved."
Dr. J. Allen Hynek, Chairman of the Department of Astronomy at Northwestern University and scientific consultant for Air Force investigations of UFOs from 1948 until 1969 (Projects Sign, Grudge and Blue Book).
Audio
• "The Robertson Panel was a device used by the CIA to establish a cover programme (Project Bluebook) that would draw attention away from a covert programme designed to meet the UFO challenge."
Jim and Coral Lorenzen, Aerial Phenomena Research Organization (APRO).
Video: 36:20 / Bulletins
• "This memo to the Director of CIA indicates that what would be the recommendation of the Robertson Panel was already determined a year before.. It also shows that CIA estimated current efforts of UFO research insufficient as far as national security is concerned and that the problem must be escalated to higher levels."
Researcher Patrick Gross.
Document
• "I think Ufologists live in their own world and they believe that everybody knows about this panel - the problem is the vast majority of the populace don't."
Researcher Paul Kimball on the CIA Robertson Panel 'disseminating the gospel'.
Video
• "Perhaps that'll take care of the Forteans for a while."
H.P. Robertson - letter to H. Marshall Chadwell (Assistant Director of Scientific Intelligence at the CIA) dated January 20th, 1953.
Link
• Statements on the 1969 Condon UFO Report:
• "The Condon report was a travesty on science."
Dr. J. Allen Hynek, Chairman of the Department of Astronomy at Northwestern University and scientific consultant for Air Force investigations of UFOs from 1948 until 1969 (Projects Sign, Grudge and Blue Book).
Video: 6:20
• "You can actually buy the Condon Report, it's like the Kennedy assassination report, it's about 800 pages long, all the data is in there, much of it contradicting what Condon's final conclusion was. Eventually the report was released and at the time, a lot of people forget this, to large scale ridicule by the scientific community."
Researcher Paul Kimball.
Video
• "Specious argumentation, and argumentation of scientifically very weak nature, abound in the Report's case-analyses. And, while broadly charging bias on the part of those who have taken the UFO problem seriously in the past, the Report exhibits degrees of bias in the opposite direction that deserve the sharpest of criticism."
Dr James McDonald -Senior physicist at the Institute for Atmospheric Physics and professor in the Department of Meteorology at the University of Arizona.
• "The opposite conclusion could have been drawn from The Condon Report's content, namely, that a phenomenon with such a high ratio of unexplained cases (about 30 percent) should arouse sufficient scientific curiosity to continue its study.. From a scientific and engineering standpoint, it is unacceptable to simply ignore substantial numbers of unexplained observations.. the only promising approach is a continuing moderate-level effort with emphasis on improved data collection by objective means.. involving available remote sensing capabilities and certain software changes."
Ronald D. Story - American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics UFO Subcommittee - New York: Doubleday, 1980.
Link / Video
• "If we read the report of the Condon Committee closely and ignore Dr. Condon’s conclusion, there is a strong argument for continued intense research.”
Dr. Michael Duggin, US Air Force Research Labs, Kirtland Air Force Base.
Link
• "The Condon report was a political and sociological response to the USAF’s UFO problem."
Dr. Michael Swords -
Condon study review, CUFOS Journal of UFO Studies Volume 6, 1995/1996.
Link: 1 / 2
• "The conclusions were drawn before the check was even signed, and Dr. Edward U. Condon, the chairman, knew what answers the Air Force wanted."
Researcher Kevin Randle.
Link
• "Ivan Sanderson knew Condon and the story was as you know that he was asked to do a 'job' or take the consequences of bring investigated for his past. Whatever the motivation he undoubtedly did a good job for his unseen masters."
Dr. Berthold Schwarz M.D.
Video
• "There was a man who played a very influential role in World War II deceptions, his name was Dr. R. V. Jones. Aside from being the MOD's Director of Scientific Intelligence he was a leading expert in the use of deception, his whole thing was 'how do you fool people?' and he would dream up very elaborate methods of hoodwinking people and steering them away from some things the military did not want people to know about.
Interestingly enough Jones evidently played an important behind the scenes role in planning for the University of Colorado's UFO study by Edward Condon and the Robertson Panel - I think this is a significant fact that has not got a lot of attention in the UFO community so far."
Researcher Terry Hansen.
Video
• "The trick would be to describe the project so that, to the public, it would appear a totally objective study, but to the scientific community would present the image of a group of nonbelievers trying their best to be objective but having an almost zero expectation of finding a saucer."
Robert Low, Assistant Director of the Condon Committee (and former intelligence officer) - confidential 1966 memo suggesting the 'approach' of the Condon UFO study.
Link: 1 / 2 / NewsClipping
• Statements on the 1953 Robertson UFO Panel:
• "By calling the Robertson Panel a scientific panel we really do an injustice to science itself. It's an insult to science to call the Robertson Panel anything other than an officially sanctioned cover up to put UFOs away from the public."
Researcher Richard Dolan describes the CIA Robertson Panel which led to the implementation of the military wide directive JANAP 146 which made the reporting of UFOs to the American public an act of espionage (fines of up to ten thousand dollars and/or one to ten years in prison).
Video
• "I get so mad when I read this, I am just appalled that any government official reading this kind of report could accept it. It seems to me that any responsible general or politician on reading something like this would demand further explanation."
Researcher John Keel on the full uncensored text of the CIA Robertson UFO Panel.
Video / PDF
• "They were in a very definite mood to debunk.. I would have had about as much chance of coming out and saying that I thought they were all wet as Galileo might have had satisfying or convincing the Inquisitors that the earth moved."
Dr. J. Allen Hynek, Chairman of the Department of Astronomy at Northwestern University and scientific consultant for Air Force investigations of UFOs from 1948 until 1969 (Projects Sign, Grudge and Blue Book).
Audio
• "The Robertson Panel was a device used by the CIA to establish a cover programme (Project Bluebook) that would draw attention away from a covert programme designed to meet the UFO challenge."
Jim and Coral Lorenzen, Aerial Phenomena Research Organization (APRO).
Video: 36:20 / Bulletins
• "This memo to the Director of CIA indicates that what would be the recommendation of the Robertson Panel was already determined a year before.. It also shows that CIA estimated current efforts of UFO research insufficient as far as national security is concerned and that the problem must be escalated to higher levels."
Researcher Patrick Gross.
Document
• "I think Ufologists live in their own world and they believe that everybody knows about this panel - the problem is the vast majority of the populace don't."
Researcher Paul Kimball on the CIA Robertson Panel 'disseminating the gospel'.
Video
• "Perhaps that'll take care of the Forteans for a while."
H.P. Robertson - letter to H. Marshall Chadwell (Assistant Director of Scientific Intelligence at the CIA) dated January 20th, 1953.
Link
• Statements on the 1969 Condon UFO Report:
• "The Condon report was a travesty on science."
Dr. J. Allen Hynek, Chairman of the Department of Astronomy at Northwestern University and scientific consultant for Air Force investigations of UFOs from 1948 until 1969 (Projects Sign, Grudge and Blue Book).
Video: 6:20
• "You can actually buy the Condon Report, it's like the Kennedy assassination report, it's about 800 pages long, all the data is in there, much of it contradicting what Condon's final conclusion was. Eventually the report was released and at the time, a lot of people forget this, to large scale ridicule by the scientific community."
Researcher Paul Kimball.
Video
• "Specious argumentation, and argumentation of scientifically very weak nature, abound in the Report's case-analyses. And, while broadly charging bias on the part of those who have taken the UFO problem seriously in the past, the Report exhibits degrees of bias in the opposite direction that deserve the sharpest of criticism."
Dr James McDonald -Senior physicist at the Institute for Atmospheric Physics and professor in the Department of Meteorology at the University of Arizona.
• "The opposite conclusion could have been drawn from The Condon Report's content, namely, that a phenomenon with such a high ratio of unexplained cases (about 30 percent) should arouse sufficient scientific curiosity to continue its study.. From a scientific and engineering standpoint, it is unacceptable to simply ignore substantial numbers of unexplained observations.. the only promising approach is a continuing moderate-level effort with emphasis on improved data collection by objective means.. involving available remote sensing capabilities and certain software changes."
Ronald D. Story - American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics UFO Subcommittee - New York: Doubleday, 1980.
Link / Video
• "If we read the report of the Condon Committee closely and ignore Dr. Condon’s conclusion, there is a strong argument for continued intense research.”
Dr. Michael Duggin, US Air Force Research Labs, Kirtland Air Force Base.
Link
• "The Condon report was a political and sociological response to the USAF’s UFO problem."
Dr. Michael Swords -
Condon study review, CUFOS Journal of UFO Studies Volume 6, 1995/1996.
Link: 1 / 2
• "The conclusions were drawn before the check was even signed, and Dr. Edward U. Condon, the chairman, knew what answers the Air Force wanted."
Researcher Kevin Randle.
Link
• "Ivan Sanderson knew Condon and the story was as you know that he was asked to do a 'job' or take the consequences of bring investigated for his past. Whatever the motivation he undoubtedly did a good job for his unseen masters."
Dr. Berthold Schwarz M.D.
Video
• "There was a man who played a very influential role in World War II deceptions, his name was Dr. R. V. Jones. Aside from being the MOD's Director of Scientific Intelligence he was a leading expert in the use of deception, his whole thing was 'how do you fool people?' and he would dream up very elaborate methods of hoodwinking people and steering them away from some things the military did not want people to know about.
Interestingly enough Jones evidently played an important behind the scenes role in planning for the University of Colorado's UFO study by Edward Condon and the Robertson Panel - I think this is a significant fact that has not got a lot of attention in the UFO community so far."
Researcher Terry Hansen.
Video
• "The trick would be to describe the project so that, to the public, it would appear a totally objective study, but to the scientific community would present the image of a group of nonbelievers trying their best to be objective but having an almost zero expectation of finding a saucer."
Robert Low, Assistant Director of the Condon Committee (and former intelligence officer) - confidential 1966 memo suggesting the 'approach' of the Condon UFO study.
Link: 1 / 2 / NewsClipping
