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Saddam thought he had the green light to invade Kuwait
#1
Saddam requested a meeting with the US ambassador to complain about Kuwait stealing Iraq's oil; he even quoted a UN report as back up...

"What Arab states do among each other is no concern of ours," said the ambassador !
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hxW_Oe-76...ture=share

No one rules if no one obeys

“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire
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#2
That whole episode in the history of US/Arab State affairs is affirmation that private interests and lies are something that the people of the state have no influence over.  

Leaders and their minions will cheat, lie, and manipulate in the name of state, to achieve the ends of their masters.  They will be regarded with revisionist history accounts of their extraordinary value to the people... the people's children will be indoctrinated into the tale... and grievances that thus arise after the fact will always be a "surprise" to them.

Kuwait's oil magnates were stealing oil... but was it for more money for them, or as a provocation enabling more revenue for the MIC?  Was someone exchanging 'back scratches?'

All of this lead to the deaths of thousands who otherwise had no reason to kill and die, and derived no positive outcome from the conflict.

A sad story.
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#3
My memory of the way the remark was reported soon after the war is that the United States "has no view" on the boundary dispute between Kuwait and Iraq. In other words, as I see it, Washington was imposing no advance restrctions on the way the boundary negotiations might go. In the atlases of the time, there were at least two lozenge-shaped "neutral" sections along the international frontiers west of the Euphrates, so I suppose they had never been defined rigidly.
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#4
Yes. Supposedly the story was that he put out feelers to the State Department, and one of his men was given the "go ahead, we don't care" by a representative at some state function, when he sidled up to him at an adjacent urinal in the restroom. I tried searching for the story, but it seems to have been effectively memory-holed.
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#5
(10-30-2024, 08:48 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Yes. Supposedly the story was that he put out feelers to the State Department, and one of his men was given the "go ahead, we don't care" by a representative at some state function, when he sidled up to him at an adjacent urinal in the restroom. I tried searching for the story, but it seems to have been effectively memory-holed.

"Memory-holing"... Sadly, that is the modus operandi (MO) of 'modern' cabals and "ideology leaderships"... an ironic silent admission that what they do is so often "wrong" that it must be at least, deliberately hidden... or ideally, completely destroyed.

The worst part is that the effect can be registered in the fields of science, non-political history, medicine, religious institutions, the law, and more... it's like a cancer.  Eating the truth... so someone else never has to face it.

I need an ice-cream to life my spirits now...  Cool
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#6
I'm sure Hill and Knowlton had the answers

https://www.prwatch.org/node/25/print
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#7
(10-30-2024, 12:49 PM)Raptured Wrote: I'm sure Hill and Knowlton had the answers

https://www.prwatch.org/node/25/print

That is close.

Quote:The invasion of Kuwait, however, crossed a line that the Bush Administration could not tolerate. This time Hussein's crime was far more serious than simply gassing to death another brood of Kurdish refugees. This time, oil was at stake.

But it glosses over the fact that Bush the First had a large hadron for invading Iraq even when Hussein was still an ostensible "ally". Saddam was simply stupid enough to take the CIA bait. When Bush the Second did it again, his apple didn't exactly have enough inertia to fall far from the tree, after all, he was merely wearing daddy's big-boy galoshes.


Edit: Meh, never mind. It doesn't matter any more. History will be recorded as appropriate. Statues will be made, statues will be torn down, all will erode to dust.
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#8
I wonder how much George H.W. Bush's administration's focus on events after the Berlin Wall crumbled was a factor. German reunification was one of Bush's significant foreign policy focuses/achievements. The Middle East wasn't on anyone's radar in 1991.

But Saddam Hussein still miscalculated the U.S. and global response to Iraq occupying Kuwait. Curiously, the Argentine junta committed the same blunder during the Falklands War. They didn't expect the British to launch a military response to their Falklands Islands occupation.
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