Russian drones in Poland

[Kurokage]

It wouldn't surprise me if Putin's trying to provoke a response. He can then claim to the Russian people that he was right all along, and that NATO has it in for them.

[UltraBudgie]

It wouldn't surprise me if NATO's trying to provoke the appearance of a provocation. They can then claim to the American people that they were right all along, and Putin cannot be appeased and must be dealt with.

[quintessentone]

On the news today: (Oh! This is a somethingburger!)

"Warsaw turns to Ukraine for drone warfare expertise after Russian drones enter Polish airspace"

"The neighbours will jointly test new methods of intercepting drones, exchange military experience in the field of drone warfare, and work to ensure more compatibility between the Ukrainian and Polish armed forces, Shmyhal wrote on Telegram."

Warsaw turns to Ukraine for drone warfare expertise | Toronto Sun

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The drone wars are here!

[Kurokage]

It wouldn't surprise me if NATO's trying to provoke the appearance of a provocation. They can then claim to the American people that they were right all along, and Putin cannot be appeased and must be dealt with.

How many European or NATO drones have flown into Russian airspace in an attempt to provoke a provocation? Then tell me how many Russian drones have been proven and shown to have flown into NATO airspace???

[UltraBudgie]

How many European or NATO drones have flown into Russian airspace in an attempt to provoke a provocation? Then tell me how many Russian drones have been proven and shown to have flown into NATO airspace???

147. And 17.

I remote viewed those numbers. But do you want the classified info? I'm sorry if your sources are lacking.

Please note that I was referring to what the militaries choose to react to, the interpretation politicians give, and the spin on events given by the news media. No doubt, Putin is constantly active and testing. Also, many things are presented as active threats that are not. And vice versa.

[quintessentone]

It appears they are in disagreement as to Putin's motives, but it's better to be safe than sorry.

"Intel officials are split on whether Russia deliberately flew drones into Poland but agree Putin is getting more aggressive"

"Ukraine and Poland have both said publicly that they are convinced the incursion was deliberate — an assessment shared by multiple European nations. But in conversations with a dozen senior US and Western military, intelligence, diplomatic and congressional officials, it was clear that there is no consensus view across the NATO alliance."

"Ukrainian officials contacted by CNN acknowledged that Kyiv deploys electronic warfare and jamming during Russian aerial attacks, which can cause enemy drones to go off their programmed course. Another Russian drone veered into Romania earlier this week. But a senior official added that he had “never witnessed such huge deviations” in more than three years of war."

Intel officials are split on whether Russia deliberately flew drones into Poland but agree Putin is getting more aggressive

[annonentity]

They are bombing the hell out of Russia's infrastructure. According to the Vedic astrologers around the 24th will be an interesting day. We have mass riots in France and most of Europe, If I was Putin now would be the time to claim that Russia was about to move and reclaim Europe's sovereignty. A few well placed missiles and a blitzkrieg attack into Europpean major centers. Then It will get interesting as nukes cant be used in Urban warfare. There seems to be reports of massive amounts of tanks with drone umbrellas heading to the front lines. 
  Since most of Europe  has had the heads up to prepare , it might seem to a conspiracy theorists that a narrative was about to play out.
  Lets hope Brandon Biggs is wrong   Brandon Biggs speaks about September 23rd, 2025 I could go through a load of   
     It just seems strange that a lot of online psychics are pointing to this period, They do not seem to be reading from the same hymn book either. Is this a case of great events casting a long shadow , we will soon find out .

[RichardHurt]

They are bombing the hell out of Russia's infrastructure. According to the Vedic astrologers around the 24th will be an interesting day. We have mass riots in France and most of Europe, If I was Putin now would be the time to claim that Russia was about to move and reclaim Europe's sovereignty. A few well placed missiles and a blitzkrieg attack into Europpean major centers. Then It will get interesting as nukes cant be used in Urban warfare. There seems to be reports of massive amounts of tanks with drone umbrellas heading to the front lines. 
  Since most of Europe  has had the heads up to prepare , it might seem to a conspiracy theorists that a narrative was about to play out.
  Lets hope Brandon Biggs is wrong   Brandon Biggs speaks about September 23rd, 2025 I could go through a load of   
     It just seems strange that a lot of online psychics are pointing to this period, They do not seem to be reading from the same hymn book either. Is this a case of great events casting a long shadow , we will soon find out .

Putin would have a very hard time doing so with Poland in the way. And it would force Russia to move many forces away from its far east. Remember China and Russia are frenemies.
It would be extremely unwise for Putin to make such a drastic decision unless he knew a certain country would remove its obligations to NATO. And even then if the US did pull from NATO or refuse to hold our end of the bargain which we are now forcing others to do financially, it would turn many current strong allies to align differently. And they won't be with Russia.

[RichardHurt]

147. And 17.

I remote viewed those numbers. But do you want the classified info? I'm sorry if your sources are lacking.

Please note that I was referring to what the militaries choose to react to, the interpretation politicians give, and the spin on events given by the news media. No doubt, Putin is constantly active and testing. Also, many things are presented as active threats that are not. And vice versa.

Putin is only doing these things to cause disruption in order to delay the populations of other countries to support Ukraine. He has no intention of invading the rest of Europe. 
But if he can confuse and disrupt current support so he can further makes gains to appease the people then hell yes he will.

[annonentity]

If it is true that the west is in the declining phase it is a good exterior shock that will be all that is needed to complete the process. Law and order breaks down from the top first. So it depends on how corrupted it really is.