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Russia is struggling with ICBMs
#1
I ran across this article and found it interesting.

The missile meant to strike fear in Russia’s enemies fails once again 
One of Vladimir Putin’s favorite sabres to rattle seems to have lost its edge. 

If we watch... this is the right time for China to brag about their missiles... or the US...
It is a "PR" game after all...
Such weapons are "not to be used" right?
 
Quote:A Russian intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) fired from an underground silo on the country’s southern steppe Friday on a scheduled test to deliver a dummy warhead to a remote impact zone nearly 4,000 miles away. The missile didn’t even make it 4,000 feet.

Russia’s military has been silent on the accident, but the missile’s crash was seen and heard for miles around the Dombarovsky air base in Orenburg Oblast near the Russian-Kazakh border.

A video posted by the Russian blog site MilitaryRussia.ru on Telegram and widely shared on other social media platforms showed the missile veering off course immediately after launch before cartwheeling upside down, losing power, and then crashing a short distance from the launch site. The missile ejected a component before it hit the ground, perhaps as part of a payload salvage sequence, according to Pavel Podvig, a senior researcher at the United Nations Institute for Disarmament Research in Geneva.

The crash was accompanied by a fireball and a noxious reddish-brown cloud, the telltale sign of a toxic mix of hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide used to fuel Russia’s most powerful ICBMs. Satellite images taken since Friday show a crater and burn scar near the missile silo.

Analysts say the circumstances of the launch suggest it was likely a test of Russia’s RS-28 Sarmat missile, a weapon designed to reach targets more than 11,000 miles (18,000 kilometers) away, making it the world’s longest-range missile.

I always wonder what lessons will be "learned" from this failure.
#2
(12-02-2025, 04:12 PM)Maxmars Wrote: this is the right time for China to brag about their missiles

Is this the right time for China's Barbarossa, with Russia getting bled out and their nuke deterrent officially questionable?

Interesting times.

(And God if this does happen, hopefully the US watches from a distance, with popcorn, and keeps our mitts out.)
#3
That is a very important relationship...

I keep sensing hesitation in the way it is covered by the media...

Sometimes it is a clandestine love affair, other times it's a quagmire of unresolved compromises.

News isn't really "investigating" anything anymore.
#4
Good, as just a couple of those Satan II + accompanying warhead payloads could blanket the likes of the UK in nuclear fire and irradiate the island from one end to the other.

Nuclear war is a mug's game.

The problem is that Putin is the biggest mug hanging on the tree.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#5
(12-02-2025, 04:12 PM)Maxmars Wrote: I ran across this article and found it interesting.

The missile meant to strike fear in Russia’s enemies fails once again 
One of Vladimir Putin’s favorite sabres to rattle seems to have lost its edge. 

If we watch... this is the right time for China to brag about their missiles... or the US...
It is a "PR" game after all...
Such weapons are "not to be used" right?
 

I always wonder what lessons will be "learned" from this failure.

I saw that article too. 
On the one hand, this could be down to Russian not able to maintain it's stockpiles due to sanctions and economy woes. On the other, it was a test, and in those circumstances, lots of these types of military test do in fact fail.

I think China know see Russia as a way of making money, they're selling them over priced everything because of Russia's limited supply chain.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
#6
If I were Khrushchev we would not be having this conversation.

And this would be written in pencil.
I was not here.
#7
I don't think anyone should take too much importance from one failed ICBM test.  We all have our share of unexpected events in that world and Russia knows boosters. Before Elon et al., I daresay as well as anyone. Booster failure is just part of the game.

If a pattern develops, then we can begin to read something into it.
#8
(12-03-2025, 07:36 AM)Halfswede Wrote: I don't think anyone should take too much importance from one failed ICBM test.  We all have our share of unexpected events in that world and Russia knows boosters. Before Elon et al., I daresay as well as anyone.

If a pattern develops, then we can begin to read something into it.

The problem is that it's not the first ICBM Russia have ""launched"" in recent history that flopped and went pop.

Do they make nuclear Viagra?  Saint2
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#9
(12-02-2025, 07:13 PM)RandomLurker Wrote: Is this the right time for China's Barbarossa, with Russia getting bled out and their nuke deterrent officially questionable?


The interesting question is what would trigger China to launch a resource-grab war against Russia? Putin's regime isn't threatened by his unsuccessful war in Ukraine. However, China calculates that Russia either wouldn't or would use nukes unsuccessfully to defend its homeland is a scary prospect. 

China employing their interest in annexing Taiwan/its numerous other territorial claims as a smoke screen for its northward expansion goals isn't a remote prospect.
#10
Andy - the Quote button doesn't seem to work.

Have they had a successful test?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...