Recognize your power.

[UltraBudgie]

We are already in mass formation psychosis

Actual change begins at the individual level with the sincere desire for authentic growth 

Get enough individuals thinking this way, then it's possible to trigger the 100 monkey effect

that is agreeable. my thought was that getting to the tipping point of reformation of coherent worldview doesn't happen successfully by merely pretending that the tipping point has already been reached. it takes paths of change anchored to reality and events to bring that about, from multiple directions, else the result will merely be more mass delusion.

also +1 for the 100th monkey effect mention that is a fave

[cherokeetroy]

that is agreeable. my thought was that getting to the tipping point of reformation of coherent worldview doesn't happen successfully by merely pretending that the tipping point has already been reached. it takes paths of change anchored to reality and events to bring that about, from multiple directions, else the result will merely be more mass delusion.

also +1 for the 100th monkey effect mention that is a fave

Totally agree

It's a personal, introspective, authentic process

Beginning with a single step of a single individual 

And it's not easy

It's not love and light

It's facing a million dark nights of the soul

The only way out is through

Trying to shortcut a work around is what's known as "spiritual bypassing"

[IgnorantGod]

[...]

it is like telling a person who is in prison that they are only as imprisoned as they allow themselves to believe they are

the reason force and coercion are a thing is because force and coercion work

[...]

This is somewhat context dependent. As if one considers the climate of a country, in those that have winters, prisons may not be "the worst place" from certain perspectives, such as being homeless. I wonder which is 'harsher', sleeping in a cell, garanteed of three meals the next day, and access to a shower, or living with the uncertainty to find a place that at least cover from the wind?

Hence why I assume some may not necessarily 'feel' imprisoned even if they are in the social establishment that embodies imprisonment.

On the other hand, having your population worrying about being 'branded' a criminal and 'snatched out' of their 'territory' to be sent to prison could be seen as 'mind trap/prison' itself, or so I understand.

In any case, coercion does work, until it doesn't.

[UltraBudgie]

This is somewhat context dependent. As if one considers the climate of a country, in those that have winters, prisons may not be "the worst place" from certain perspectives, such as being homeless. I wonder which is 'harsher', sleeping in a cell, garanteed of three meals the next day, and access to a shower, or living with the uncertainty to find a place that at least cover from the wind?

Hence why I assume some may not necessarily 'feel' imprisoned even if they are in the social establishment that embodies imprisonment.

On the other hand, having your population worrying about being 'branded' a criminal and 'snatched out' of their 'territory' to be sent to prison could be seen as 'mind trap/prison' itself, or so I understand.

nicely put and reminiscent of the phrase "none are so enchained as those who believe themselves free", and also the possible converse approach suggested by scripture (mat 23:4, mat 11:28-30). but the prison analogy i used was only meant as an simile that hope does not trump reality, not necessarily a concrete truism. nonetheless you've taken it in a good direction thank you.

In any case, coercion does work, until it doesn't.

yes such things tend to only lead to an ever-increasing spiral of force and coercion.

* looks side-eyed at the world *

oh. well, let's enjoy the ride, i suppose.

[cherokeetroy]

Here's another one

Those who don't move, don't feel their chains

[Maxmars]

....


yes such things tend to only lead to an ever-increasing spiral of force and coercion.

* looks side-eyed at the world *

oh. well, let's enjoy the ride, i suppose.

... and remember folks... these are all appearances - even your own observations of appearance are 'appearance.'

Even force and coercion, as a tool... can be made to 'appear' as an embrace of brotherhood.

In the "Grand Human Cloister", if it exists, or ever would, it's all about the "brotherhood"...
although it nevertheless prevails that humans 'want' a model of "kinship" preeminence... and a bizarre fixation with centralized control.

I mean, not even God was ever "all-in" on the idea of "royalty."

[IgnorantGod]

...but the prison analogy i used was only meant as an simile that hope does not trump reality, not necessarily a concrete truism. nonetheless you've taken it in a good direction thank you.


yes such things tend to only lead to an ever-increasing spiral of force and coercion.

* looks side-eyed at the world *

oh. well, let's enjoy the ride, i suppose.

Ah, yes. I agree here, although in the cynical side of 'my' spectrum, I'd say 'love' or any other 'experience' and 'sensation' a human could possibly 'feel', never trump 'reality'. That is so, in my opinion, because 'reality' whether an illusion or not, is a 'group effort' whereas every 'actors' have their role in the play.

And by 'actors', I don't simply imply the 'self', but everything down to the 'smallest' particles one could 'observe'. Not because everything have a 'mind', rather because 'anything' is always contextually 'defined' in relation with 'something else'. Taking a role is assuming such 'division', the play is the entirety of relations between every 'actors'.

If I tie this back with the topic, 'power' in this case would be to somewhat communicate an 'intent' outside the 'usual' sphere of influence of the 'self', which would be the body, towards the environment (the 'non-body') so that it tries to 'conform' ot 'meet the expectation' of the 'intent'. The 'measure of power' would be the 'scale of environmental compliance' and the 'number of actors conforming' to the 'intent'.

At the end of the day? I guess the choice is in either 'enjoying' the ride or not, and hence, 'better' enjoying it, then. I still cry internally however, such is 'life'.

[Maxmars]

....

At the end of the day? I guess the choice is in either 'enjoying' the ride or not, and hence, 'better' enjoying it, then. I still cry internally however, such is 'life'.

Crying makes life worth living...
there is a recognition there...

I think of it as fully being a witness of life.

But... that's just a me thing.

[UltraBudgie]

I think of it as fully being a witness of life.

But... that's just a me thing.

Narcissist.

[Maxmars]

Narcissist.

Heaven forbid I should so remain! 

.. but everyone has drunk of that cup.