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Quantum Radar: What It Is?
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Quantum Radar: What It Is and Why Everyone Keeps Talking About It

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You have probably seen headlines claiming quantum radar can make stealth jets useless or that China already has one that works out to 100 km. Most of those headlines leave you with more questions than answers. Here is the plain-language version without the hype.
 
What is quantum radar?
Instead of sending out a normal radio wave pulse and waiting for the echo, quantum radar uses a trick from quantum mechanics called entanglement. You make pairs of “linked” photons, or sometimes microwave photons. One photon in the pair, called the signal photon, is sent toward the target. The other, called the idler photon, stays in your radar system.
 
If the signal photon bounces back, the radar compares it to its idler twin. Because they were created together, they share unique traits such as polarization and phase. If those match up, you can tell it is a real return and not just background noise.
 
Why does that matter?
Stealth works by scattering and absorbing radar energy so very little comes back to the receiver. Quantum radar’s big promise is that even a handful of matching photons could stand out from the noise floor. In theory, that means you could detect things normal radar would miss.
 
The advantages on paper:
  • Better noise rejection, so you can run at very low power without giving away your location.
  • Potential to see low radar cross-section targets such as stealth aircraft.
  • Possible improvement in bad weather or cluttered environments.
The big problem in practice:
Entanglement is fragile. The second those photons go through the atmosphere, hit a moving aircraft, and bounce back, their quantum link is almost always lost. At this stage, the real-world range for true entangled-photon radar experiments is measured in meters, not kilometers.
 
About that Chinese 100 km claim:
In 2016, China’s CETC said they had a working 100 km quantum radar. No independent proof has ever surfaced. Most experts believe they were either using a different “quantum-inspired” signal processing trick or doing a bit of psychological warfare to influence other militaries.

(This is a good place to link to another thread concerning China making technical breakthrough claims in hopes that the US will research it so China can in turn steal it - Is China Tricking The Pentagon?)
 
Where it stands now:
Quantum radar is still a laboratory project for the most part. The United States, Canada, and Europe are working on it, but nobody has fielded a system that can track a stealth jet in combat conditions. The physics is possible, but the engineering is extremely challenging.


So, if you hear someone say quantum radar makes stealth useless, take it with a grain of salt. We will know it is real long before any press release because it would change how stealth aircraft operate almost overnight, and those changes would be impossible to hide.
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Watched a great youtube vid about quantum tech recently...the jist of the whole thing was whoever masters quantum tech first will have the most powerful weapon the world has ever sewn by orders of magnitude. Basically nothing is off the table as far as what they could do.

Edit: Even further if you had a proper quantum computer you could just break all encryption and get all the info on flights and basically anything logged on any computer anywhere connectat all to the outside world.
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Damn! I wish Tesla had lived to contribute to this field further...

I bet we'd have gotten there already.

Ooops, sorry ... off topic....

I get the 'weak' entanglement part... but not the exact point of application...

I thought that 'entanglement' was useful as a 'particle' and that the link wasn't a signal (I get that everything is ultimately a signal)... but I guess I'm to far into "layman-land" to scope how this is game-changing.

[Edit to add:  Frankly, I find it difficult to dismiss the principle behind the tech... but the reports from China seems all too often a matter of their perspective when it come to the awesome flash of their military tech.]
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Even if they did have a quantum radar with a 100 km range, that's well within weapons range of just about everything we have. This isn't going to be a mobile radar set up, and will require pretty significant power most likely. It's not going to be something they're going to easily hide.
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I need to start entangling my own photons at home.
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Quote:Even if they did have a quantum radar with a 100 km range, that's well within weapons range of just about everything we have. This isn't going to be a mobile radar set up, and will require pretty significant power most likely. It's not going to be something they're going to easily hide.

Like I said...whoever actually masters using quantum mechanics...not just tangential aspects we can barely utilize let alone understand...will rule over all. Actual mastery of quantum mechanics will basically render all tech we know useless. You won't have to fight a war...everything can be done to cripple a nation as well as accessing all info about anything at a whim.
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It was about two or three years ago I did hear that China did perform some entanglement experiment between a land based and satellite system. Did not get the details. Sounds like progress continues.

China has had a big boom in science and engineering recently, lot of graduates. As for the current capabilities and limitations, no idea. The quality of their products has improved from thirty years ago.

The quantum world is deep with lots of numbers. Need a lot of strong scientific foundation to build something real with it. Are atoms just dumb things, or are they already entangled with everything else if you know where to look? Or is the omnipotence of God more about a shared memory of past entanglements?

To keep it real, there is a lot of fuzzy science out there in pushing the boundaries. Is some of it an intentional smoke screen to keep the advantage for those out front? Or is it really hard and easy to get lost along the way?
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Quantum Experiments at Space Scale
 
Quote:The initial experiment demonstrated quantum key distribution (QKD) between Xinjiang Astronomical Observatory near Ürümqi and Xinglong Observatory near Beijing – a great-circle distance of approximately 2,500 kilometres (1,600 mi). In addition, QUESS tested Bell's inequality at a distance of 1,200 km (750 mi) – further than any experiment to date – and teleported a photon state between Shiquanhe Observatory in Ali, Tibet Autonomous Region, and the satellite.

Once experiments within China concluded, QUESS created an international QKD channel between China and the Institute for Quantum Optics and Quantum Information, Vienna, Austria − a ground distance of 7,500 km (4,700 mi), enabling the first intercontinental secure quantum video call in 2016

Looking into these experiments, a laser based method of entanglement was used. With some of the concerns going on, has China found a way to use radar in the entanglement process? It is theoretically possible, but the level of control over every photon required is a very different machine from the standard radar used today.