Putin's North Korean Soldiers

[quintessentone]

What do you expect the West to do when a nation like Russia pisses on accords it signed whilst showing blatant disregard for various rules of engagement and human rights?

I do wish to see change, these days I don't think we're ready for change since so many are invested, I also wouldn't have much hope on any system that replaces the ones we already have in place. My main reason?

We're hardly living up to the world we inherited, tomorrow will be as dull as the minds we find leading us today. It's like desecrating 20th century war graves whilst uttering "you never mattered you pointless #!" Which is absolutely deplorable... We're deplorable.

Why Ukraine and not the other countless conflicts around the world? White privilege innit?

Putin is offering college/uni students money to have children while they are studying. So this move can serve many different needs Russia is facing, but one thing for sure IMO Putin is definitely all-in, totally invested in this land grab. Are the students in college the next to be called into duty as cannon fodder?

The latest missile and drone launch on Ukraine infrastructure has me wondering if those missiles and drones were from NK.

As for what do we expect the West to do, well that depends on the country and other factors which would drive decisions, such as if Trump turns the U.S. to an isolationist country, then that leaves the European countries to take the reins.

I don't think it's white privilege, I think it's ego, corruption, power, greed...the usual evils. Look to non-white countries and we see the same evils at play.

[Ray1990]

Putin is offering college/uni students money to have children while they are studying. So this move can serve many different needs Russia is facing, but one thing for sure IMO Putin is definitely all-in, totally invested in this land grab. Are the students in college the next to be called into duty as cannon fodder?

The latest missile and drone launch on Ukraine infrastructure has me wondering if those missiles and drones were from NK.

As for what do we expect the West to do, well that depends on the country and other factors which would drive decisions, such as if Trump turns the U.S. to an isolationist country, then that leaves the European countries to take the reins.

I don't think it's white privilege, I think it's ego, corruption, power, greed...the usual evils. Look to non-white countries and we see the same evils at play.

The "white privilege" comment was tongue in cheek, I don't think the reasons can be summed up into sound bites in all honesty. If the US goes down the path of isolationism the rest of the world won't idly fall asleep. They'll still have the same thoughts and beliefs, they'll still feel as compelled to do the things they do... They'll just be a lot more hungry and desperate in their endeavours. Add in the sense that nobody will enforce the rules and you've got a recipe for disaster.

I'm sure that £750 is incentive enough to have kids whilst learning an education, I wouldn't know what support parents would get over time in Russia but I'm sure more will be merrier just as it is in any developed nation. Still... nothing costs more than life.

The latest missile and drone launch on Ukraine infrastructure has me wondering if those missiles and drones were from NK.

I think it would be plastered all over the news if anything unexpected was launched against Ukraine. Russia warned the US about their ballistic missile launch knowing full well the US knew what was being launched and when. Even if they didn't they would have as soon as it launched. Distinct characteristics and all that, similar things can be said about drones or any other weapon too.

Testing components and systems is probably happening a lot more than it should. The theatre is the real test of how something acts after all.

[Creaky]

Anybody got any photos, some sort of evidence indicating the NK presence
Not inclined to trust a he says she says media channel 

Be more inclined to think this is about propaganda than fact
In this thread I have read just about every media trope possible but not seen anything to make me believe it as fact

I can imaging NK have a presence but, what their role is?
Not seen anything to confirm the story

[quintessentone]

Anybody got any photos, some sort of evidence indicating the NK presence
Not inclined to trust a he says she says media channel 

Be more inclined to think this is about propaganda than fact
In this thread I have read just about every media trope possible but not seen anything to make me believe it as fact

I can imaging NK have a presence but, what their role is?
Not seen anything to confirm the story

The sources I provided are not MSM they are from military sources, specifically from the mouths of those involved in this war, on both sides.

Can the reporting be skewed, sure but that's where common sense and logic should be applied by those reading or listening to the military news I post.

For instance - from The Military Show, it's a simple matter to do the math as to how much Soviet -era equipment stocks Putin has used and lost to Ukraine. Couple that with the fall of the Rubel in Russia, then IMO it stands to reason that Putin would lean on NK and/or Iran for equipment and cannon fodder since they made their own pact to come to each other's defence during war.

Iran has also been reported to supply Russian with equipment; China has not so far.



Ukraine's top officials says it fought N Korean soldiers and so it is not disputed in any media as to whether or not NK soldiers are fighting for Russia, rather what is disputed are the number of soldiers. Providing pictures or other media or military sources won't convince any conspiracy theorists of that reality if that conspiracy theorist won't believe sources from the horses' mouths.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c14le0p4310o

[sahgwa]

Anybody got any photos, some sort of evidence indicating the NK presence
Not inclined to trust a he says she says media channel 

Be more inclined to think this is about propaganda than fact
In this thread I have read just about every media trope possible but not seen anything to make me believe it as fact

I can imaging NK have a presence but, what their role is?
Not seen anything to confirm the story

There is plenty of footage now. A lot of it is on telegram from Ukrainian channels

I don't this can share shorts, but here is one to paste: https://www.youtube.com/rqiPsaGMs_U

[Creaky]

There is plenty of footage now. A lot of it is on telegram from Ukrainian channels

I don't this can share shorts, but here is one to paste: https://www.youtube.com/rqiPsaGMs_U

Not conclusive in my opinion
Not denying Putin would use NK soldiers
but all I have seen doesn’t indicate their is evidence

That last video, it was like a parody
Even more skeptical

[Creaky]

The sources I provided are not MSM they are from military sources, specifically from the mouths of those involved in this war, on both sides.

Can the reporting be skewed, sure but that's where common sense and logic should be applied by those reading or listening to the military news I post.

For instance - from The Military Show, it's a simple matter to do the math as to how much Soviet -era equipment stocks Putin has used and lost to Ukraine. Couple that with the fall of the Rubel in Russia, then IMO it stands to reason that Putin would lean on NK and/or Iran for equipment and cannon fodder since they made their own pact to come to each other's defence during war.

O dear, excuse me for questioning the media, questioning the propaganda, questioning Zelensky but

i didn’t ask for your long winded and boring opinion
I asked for evidence and you provided nothing but excess diatribe, for no other reason than to hide you have no evidence to list whatsoever

I asked for proof and was called a conspiracy theorist 

Great evidence 

again, I don’t doubt Putin has NK soldiers, I asked for evidence and you offered that
Joke

[quintessentone]

O dear, excuse me for questioning the media, questioning the propaganda, questioning Zelensky but

i didn’t ask for your long winded and boring opinion
I asked for evidence and you provided nothing but excess diatribe, for no other reason than to hide you have no evidence to list whatsoever

I asked for proof and was called a conspiracy theorist 

Great evidence 

again, I don’t doubt Putin has NK soldiers, I asked for evidence and you offered that
Joke

If you don't doubt Putin has NK soldiers, why ask for evidence that he does have them?

Again, as I said previously and of which you ignored, top government and military officials on both sides provided statements as proof. If what they say is happening does not make sense to you or you are paranoid that everything out there is propaganda, then check your conspiracy theorist mindset and try using logic and common sense instead mixed with your own further research outside this thread. Good luck with that.

And your behaviour in name calling and ill will would be more suited to that other site.

[quintessentone]

Russian and NK pact: "By all means necessary".

NK untrained soldiers reported to be starving.



Col. Hamish de Bretton-Gordon called it a month ago in an interview with Times Radio.

Chris visiting the front lines in Russia, Kursk Region. Ukrainian soldier tells of total anniliation of Russia's cannon fodder @ 11:05 mark in video - @ 15:48 re: NK soldiers, "They will be fertilizer for Ukrainian soil." - continue watching up to interview with Head of the Office of the Ukrainian President. @ 27:16 onwards, explaining why people like Chris don't put out some video/pictures out there to the public.




Chris suggests we subscribe to United24media for Live footage.

[quintessentone]

There is plenty of footage now. A lot of it is on telegram from Ukrainian channels

I don't this can share shorts, but here is one to paste: https://www.youtube.com/rqiPsaGMs_U

Hey sahgwa, so your first video's source is shown as SPRAVDI, and from what I see on the web, many others have deemed that source as legit.

Your second video's source is https://t.me/RVvoenkor and IMO it is legit for many logical and common sense reasons, and one of many independent journalists and groups that put their life on the line to report the truths of war.

It's not difficult to check sources and determine whether or not they are legit or not.