Project Preserve Destiny

[pianopraze]

Been hearing about this. Rumor is Trump wants to do disclosure.

Anything to get away from Epstein list?

Here is a snippet of the third post I’ve seen, more in Twitter:X/twitter

Project Preserve Destiny—a UAP program allegedly so secret it has six levels of classification—is being moved out of Pentagon oversight and directly under the White House, per a stunning report from Italy.

Published by L’Espresso, a major and well-established Italian magazine—generally respected in journalistic circles, the piece begins: “There’s more on Donald Trump’s agenda than tariffs. Behind the scenes in Washington, something concrete is already underway. It’s called Project Preserve Destiny, and it’s much more than a simple study program of so‑called UAPs (Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena).

edit, seems there is a fiction book by this name also. Makes me suspicious. 

found a couple more references to the Italian magazine so that seems to be only source. For now I recommend taking with a lot of salt until further sources arise.

[Encia22]

Here is the article in question. Your browser should have a translation option, otherwise, I'll provide one if needed... tomorrow, it's way past my bedtime.

https://lespresso.it/c/mondo/2025/7/16/w...tiny/55642

[pianopraze]

Here is the article in question. Your browser should have a translation option, otherwise, I'll provide one if needed... tomorrow, it's way past my bedtime.

https://lespresso.it/c/mondo/2025/7/16/w...tiny/55642

Thank you. It’s basically translated in the Twitter post in my OP, but always good to get sources!

one source stories generally ended in hoaxes, but they say it’s a respected source? I don’t know anything about it.

time will tell. Still important we report this on DI as it’s going around social media as absolute truth right now.

[Velvet Elvis]

So, in the Twitter thread it has a foia confirmation section that shows the following:

"Air Force FOIA: Researcher Noah Hradek submitted a FOIA (July 2023) asking about “Project Preserve Destiny.” Initially denied, but eventually the Air Force referred it to NSA, stating the program “falls under the purview of the NSA” ."

I don't think this is related directly to the Italian article, but if its true, then it would seem to me that this move has been in the works since before the second Trump administration. Not to say that it still couldn't be used as a distraction to all the Epstein chatter, but just pointing out that, if this is the case, it would predate the 2nd Trump admin and in my mind that would make it more legit than just a conveniently timed release of info by the White House.

[Kwaka]

one source stories generally ended in hoaxes, but they say it’s a respected source? I don’t know anything about it.

I don't know much about it either, had a look on the way back machine, domain has been active since 2001. It was late 2023 that the current format of the website started with a lot more traffic to that domain.

As for any kind of Project Destiny, sounds similar to some in the MJ-12 material. Whatever is going on with life in the universe, things are looking harsh and barren to life as we know it. Maybe somewhere?

[greymagick]

I think UFO disclosure/contact/etc. comes at the end of human history/global collapse/"the Apocaylypse".  

But we are certainly getting closer - and it's speeding up faster and faster.  Trump is "the disclosure President", most likely... But this will end up being an "alien threat", militaristic type of approach, most likely.  That's just my take on it.

[Encia22]

I don't know much about it either, had a look on the way back machine, domain has been active since 2001. It was late 2023 that the current format of the website started with a lot more traffic to that domain.

L'Espresso magazine dates back to 1955, it is the equivalent of the Times magazine, but more political.

[EXETER]

So, in the Twitter thread it has a foia confirmation section that shows the following:

"Air Force FOIA: Researcher Noah Hradek submitted a FOIA (July 2023) asking about “Project Preserve Destiny.” Initially denied, but eventually the Air Force referred it to NSA, stating the program “falls under the purview of the NSA” ."

I don't think this is related directly to the Italian article, but if its true, then it would seem to me that this move has been in the works since before the second Trump administration. Not to say that it still couldn't be used as a distraction to all the Epstein chatter, but just pointing out that, if this is the case, it would predate the 2nd Trump admin and in my mind that would make it more legit than just a conveniently timed release of info by the White House.

First of all, I believe the Italian article is misinterpreting what the Air Force reply to the FOIA request actually means.  From Noah Hradek's website, here is what the Air Force reply actually said:

"After a careful review of your request, we have determined that the information you are seeking falls under the purview of the NSA. Therefore, our office has referred your request to the NSA for their processing and direct response to you."

They said the information (that means records) falls under the purview of the NSA.  They did NOT say that there is a program called Preserve Destiny within the NSA. 

That's probably a formally correct conclusion and besides, every government agency that gets FOIA requests considers them nuisances and looks to fob them off to another agency, if they can.  

The NSA response said:  
"We have interpreted your request as being for NSA intelligence records on Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs), Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), and/or Unidentified Aerospace-Undersea Phenomena. For reasons described below, we are not able to confirm or deny the existence or nonexistence of these records. Please be advised that this is our standard response to all requests where we reasonably believe intelligence records are being requested on UFOs/UAP."

They go on to say: "This Agency has determined that the fact of the existence or non-existence of the materials you request is a currently and properly classified matter in accordance with Executive Order 13526, as set forth in Subparagraph c) of Section 1.4. Thus, your request is denied pursuant to the first exemption of the FOIA which provides that the FOIA does not apply to matters that are specifically authorized under criteria established by an Executive Order to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign relations and are, in fact properly classified pursuant to such Executive Order."  

Executive Order 13526 is the Presidential order that defines categories of classified information, who gets to classify and declassify it, how it gets protected, etc., etc.    Subparagraph c) of Section 1.4 says that information is properly classified if "it pertains to......  c) intelligence activities (including covert action), intelligence sources or methods, or cryptology."  Since the NSA is concerned with all of the above, any records requested by Noah--if they exist--are properly classified.  

So basically, the Air Force is saying "you're asking the wrong agency, go ask the NSA."  The NSA is saying, "We don't have to tell you whether we do or do not have any records on the topic of Preserve Destiny, so we won't." This is essentially a very formal and roundabout way of saying "No comment." 

Noah and the Italian reporter are incorrectly concluding (in my opinion) that this exchange of messages proves the existence of the Preserve Destiny program.  They are using that conclusion to try to support the main claim of the article, which is that the White House has decided to take back the oversight of Preserve Destiny from the NSA and do it from the White House instead. This exchange of messages allows the existence of a Preserve Destiny program but does not require it.  The main claim of the article could still be correct, it's just that the Noah Hradek story doesn't really have much bearing on it, one way or another.  

If there really is a Preserve Destiny program, and the White House really did pull oversight of it back from the NSA, keep in mind that NSA is part of the DOD, so this effectively is cutting the DOD out of the loop on this particular program.  IF they did that (and I emphasize IF) I would interpret that as an action to move toward greater secrecy, not greater disclosure.  

Last year, Representative Tim Burchett introduced the ‘‘UAP Transparency Act’’ which, if passed, would require the President to direct all federal departments and agencies to "release to the public ... all documents, reports, and other records relating to unidentified anomalous phenomena..."  That bill didn't pass because it was torpedoed by those interested in maintaining the secrecy, but it is going to be reintroduced this year, and may pass.  Moving those records out of the Pentagon and into the White House, would effectively exempt them from this Act.  

Just sayin.....

[EXETER]

For those still following this, here is a pointer to a YouTube video from the Sol Foundation that seems to be saying pretty much the same thing I did, in a previous post, but with more context:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDfmdbO8Snc

About 8 1/2 minutes long.