Praxis Nation --- Towards the Eternal City

[quintessentone]

This is big reason why they want to remove government overhead:

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Medical development is a key motive for the Network State. 

"Venture capitalists are investors in thousands of biotech startups, working in genetics, disease treatment, development of new drugs, stem cells, insurance, clinical trials and other areas. These startups face regulatory burdens from bodies like the FDA, while trailing the funding power of big pharma. This has driven venture capitalists to seek roads around regulatory bodies through off-shore clinical trials, FDA-free “Network State” zones in the global south, and political maneuvering to gut regulatory bodies and medical agencies and infrastructure. Their backing of Trump’s second term is significantly motivated by their biotech ambitions, and their model of medical development – as for AI, weapons and crypto – is accelerationism.

In 2017, venture capitalist and PayPal co-founder Peter Thiel financially supported an experimental herpes vaccine trial in St. Kitts, outside of US regulations. This off-shore experiment was performed without regulatory boundaries and little oversight; further, “the government of St. Kitts and Nevis says it was never notified of the trial, which experimented with live viruses on humans”. The trial was internationally condemned; “‘What they’re doing is patently unethical,’ said Jonathan Zenilman, chief of Johns Hopkin Hopkins Bayview Medical Center’s Infectious Diseases Division. ‘There’s a reason why researchers rely on these protections. People can die."

In 2019, Pronomos Capital was founded, with funding from Peter Thiel, Balaji Srinivasan, Marc Andreessen and Joe Lonsdale. Pronomos has funded a number of Network State sites -  “new cities” and unregulated zones - with a primary goal to secure locations where they can host clinical trials without FDA or other regulatory oversight


In Roatàn, Honduras, the Pronomos-backed Network State of Próspera has become a key site of venture capital clinical trials. They have adopted a permanent longevity and biohacking hub within Pròspera called Infinita, formerly Vitalia City. Vitalia began as an extended “pop-up” city with conferences, summits and community gatherings centered around gene editing and unregulated medical experimentation. 

Próspera -- now becoming a model in many other countries and states -- is embedded in a libertarian, free-market view that is reliant upon “crypto cities” and blockchain technology to “accelerate” the speed of medical trials while developing "on-the-ground" services and procedures, such as implants through Symbiont Labs and "3D bioprinters” through Life SI, an Argentinian-based 3D bioprinting company with close ties to Próspera.  


Inside the Pròspera compound are three different medical clinics: Minicircle, GARM and Symbiont Labs. These clinics operate with impunity in order to bring “human enhancement” and AI-driven “solutions” to the natural aging process, referred to as “radical life extension.” One startup, Bootstrap Bio, focused on genetically edited embryos or "superbabies", is planning to conduct experiments within the Network State of Próspera, "where the company could potentially avoid US regulations," starting in 2026 or 2027, and has appeared at their events. 

Preventive, another startup funded by Sam Altman and Brian Armstrong of Coinbase, is working on genetically engineered babies. The Wall Street Journal reports "Editing genes in embryos with the intention of creating babies from them is banned in the U.S. and many countries. Preventive has been searching for places to experiment where embryo editing is allowed, including the United Arab Emirates, according to correspondence reviewed by The Wall Street Journal… [According to CEO Lucas Harrington] Preventive is compelled to work outside the U.S. because the Food and Drug Administration is prohibited from reviewing applications for human trials involving embryo editing.” As Brian Armstrong's crypto company, Coinbase, is an investor in Próspera, Próspera is a likely site for these trials. 

Another venture capital vehicle for medical development is Zuzalu. Ethereum CEO, Vitalik Buterin, merged the crypto conference model with Network State enthusiasts for this long-term, residency-based “pop-up” city in Montenegro, starting in March of 2023. This two-month city brought in people like Bryan Johnson, the aging-obsessed billionaire of the “Don’t Die” movement. It became a catalyst for a flourishing “longevity” community with dozens of global conferences and “pop-up” cities. Their goal, according to Laurence Ion (co-creator of Zuzalu), is to “make death optional.”

The success of Zuzalu has paved the way for more pop-up cities including “Zu-Villages”, “Edge Cities” and summits, hosted in the Georgian mountains, Dublin, Thailand, Berlin, California, Argentina and many more regions. These events integrate longevity, biohacking, human augmentation, and virtual reality in their quest to extend their own lives beyond current human capabilities. Like the Montenegro pop-up city, Zu-Villages and Edge Cities are funded by Ethereum grants and utilize cryptocurrency as their preferred financial system. Decentralization, for them, is the key to solving economic and regulatory barriers to biotech innovation. 

In addition to their startups, tech elites fund "non-profits" that are focused on funding research in longevity and aging. One such foundation is the Methuselah Foundation, advertising "Making 90 the New 50 by 2030". The website's homepage shows images of people who appear to be 70ish years of age, reverse-aging into their early 20s. The foundation has been funded by Peter Thiel and Vitalik Buterin, founder of Ethereum and a key player in the Network State. The Methuselah Foundation funds a large number of research projects, and has a venture capital arm that invests in biotech startups.


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Sam Altman likes 'em young, huh? Or is his husband an example of their reverse aging medicine and technology? I stand corrected, the age difference is not that great, it's just that Sam Altman looks much older than he is, to me. I'm actually not opposed to reverse ageing if it also eliminates horrible age-related degradation. If it does, how will people be able to afford to live that long? Something doesn't seem right.

[cherokeetroy]

 I'm actually not opposed to reverse ageing if it also eliminates horrible age-related degradation. If it does, how will people be able to afford to live that long? Something doesn't seem right.

I'm not opposed, either 
I'm 100% in favor of the freedom to choose when it comes to medical treatment 
The question is what will medicine look like in a few years?

Elon claims Optimus will be the best surgeon 
Does this mean doctors will be replaced?

Everything comes down to trust 
Can these tech elite be entrusted with the health/medical care of the entire world 
Especially if there's no checks & balance or oversight

How do we know they have good intentions for the betterment and wellbeing of civilization that is no longer needed

[quintessentone]

I'm not opposed, either 
I'm 100% in favor of the freedom to choose when it comes to medical treatment 
The question is what will medicine look like in a few years?

Elon claims Optimus will be the best surgeon 
Does this mean doctors will be replaced?

Everything comes down to trust 
Can these tech elite be entrusted with the health/medical care of the entire world 
Especially if there's no checks & balance or oversight

How do we know they have good intentions for the betterment and wellbeing of civilization that is no longer needed

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It's extremely hard for me to believe that AI or robots with AI will be able to know what to do during surgeries because things can go sideways fast and AI may not be equipped to LLM on the fly, that is also true with doctor's assessments...they get it wrong, so will AI.

I think what they will be doing with the medical anti-ageing science, gene editing etc. part of it (or what will medicine look like), will be perhaps with clinical trials with human volunteers as they have already come very far with longevity and disease busting science with lab animals from what I've been reading.

These are a few happenings I see in my feed:

"mRNA immunotherapy successfully restores youthful immune function in aging mice

CAR-NK cell therapy overcomes CAR-T limitations with safer off-the-shelf production

Inhaled exosome therapy completely reverses immune checkpoint inhibitor resistance in melanoma
 Longevity fund backs organ printing and preventative gene therapy startups

Scientists reverse advanced Alzheimer's disease in mouse brain models

AI agents autonomously discover genomic drug targets for kidney disease

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Just to name a few.

I am also reading that experts feel that jobs are not at risk, per se, rather people will need to further their education/training to adapt to what may become the new reality.

Perhaps they may have to pay people to take part in their clinical trials depending on what it may entail. Who knows?

What about long-term treatments, how would one afford such a thing without universal healthcare?

[SteamyAmerican]

Just in locally. VFSB to support new Heavy launches. Looking at potential Mars Missions in the future going forward….
FWIW.

[cherokeetroy]

What about long-term treatments, how would one afford such a thing without universal healthcare?

According to Elon:


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Also from Elon:



He's expecting these changes to occur within the span of the next 4 years
I don't know exactly what he's basing his prediction on but for such an abrupt change to happen so rapidly, there has to be an infliction point. Some major event that would cause a sudden transition 

I think they're expecting a currency collapse 

[cherokeetroy]

Just in locally. VFSB to support new Heavy launches. Looking at potential Mars Missions in the future going forward….
FWIW.

Brown did say in one of his posts that Vandenberg would be an ideal location because it already hosts SpaceX, Blue Origin, and Relativity Space

He said his city (Atlas) would concentrate "elite engineering talent with DoD assets" to solve America's defense challenges

[cherokeetroy]

[Karl12]

It's like dystopia sci-fi materializing in real life 

Pretty surreal

Yes it's like a slow moving car crash mate and the idea of neo feudalist stakeholder controlled bio-surveillance technates (enforced by agentic AI) definitely doesn't sound good.

There's a relevant discussion below where these 'technates' are being described as 'specifically engineered to facilitate the ultimate form of totalitarianism' with folks living there being viewed as 'human animals' and 'programmable machines'.

There's a direct UN WEF involvement in all this and wasn't surprised to see their main patronage being put under this particular Royal - would also say it's incredibly relevant that their 'great reset' was kick-started by King Charles.






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Very interesting. Hadn't heard about Praxis before. This series of pics looks like very deliberate dark virtue enlightenment signalling to folks sympathizing with the occult side of Nazi ideology. Black sun symbolism accompanied by Hail (Heil). 

The second picture is reminiscent of the Wewelsburg mosaic. It's been hotly debated over the last decade because of it's use by Ukrainian Nazis, especially the Azov Battalion. I see you also brought up the Thule society later in this thread which seems apt.

Overall their presentation makes a rather LARPy impression which would be a relief frankly but seeing their backers suggests they need to be taken seriously.

[quintessentone]

According to Elon:

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Also from Elon:

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He's expecting these changes to occur within the span of the next 4 years
I don't know exactly what he's basing his prediction on but for such an abrupt change to happen so rapidly, there has to be an infliction point. Some major event that would cause a sudden transition 

I think they're expecting a currency collapse 

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From your link:

"And then there's the mechanics. Musk talks about "sustainable abundance," but has offered little detail on how such a system would work in practice. Would tech companies who profit from automation be taxed to fund it? Would governments restructure the entire welfare state? Or would universal high income remain more of a thought experiment — bold on social media, but harder to pin down in a budget??""

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There's the rub, Musk has offered little detail how such a system would work in practice. It's fantasy (is he still taking too much ketamine?)