Parents are killing their unborn children to make jewelry

[Nerb]

"The treasure is not the body itself, but God's power and spirit dwelling within it."

Yes, the bits made of physical consumption are a temporary thing that comes from elsewhere and will continue an endless journey forever in various parts and forms. The invisible energy inside a body is temporary and contains things like the spirit, soul and persona which can only be grown in life after birth.

[FlyersFan]

The jewelry option would seem to be akin to a relative's ashes in an urn over the fire place.

Not really.   When someone dies and you get their ashes, you haven't purposely killed them.   That's what happens with this IVF jewelry ... the parents opt to kill the babies and then display their dead remains in jewelry.

[FlyersFan]

Its a long established thing that IVF destroys several hundreds of thousands of embryos every year. Every successful implantation has all the ones that didn't. 

IVF is a slaughterhouse.
For every live baby there are like a dozen that die in the process.
It's strange that so called 'pro life' people are also pro IVF.
It makes no sense.

[FlyersFan]

I think keeping ashes in an urn of a person who has died is gross.

Oh yeah -- they also now make jewelry with encased ashes.

What's acceptable to some and not others -- personal choice.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

Ashes of a person who has died is just that ... the person died.
This is displaying the remains of a baby who was murdered by the parent.
Disrespectfully wearing it as jewelry.
Not even close to the same thing.

[FlyersFan]

I support LIVING CHILDREN.

No you don't.
If you did, then you wouldn't support abortion or destruction of babies in IVF.
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So you have to tell yourself that child wasn't alive so you can keep your sanity.
But that baby was alive ... and so were all the children in IVF who the parents killed
and are placing in jewelry to display their dead remains.

[FlyersFan]

The invisible energy inside a body is temporary and contains things like the spirit, soul and persona which can only be grown in life after birth.

Your statement that the soul enters the body only after birth can not be backed up.
The child in the womb, or in the IVF dish, are alive.   
Where there is life, there is a soul.
Otherwise there would be soul-less human life.  
And that's not possible.

[Nerb]

Not really.   When someone dies and you get their ashes, you haven't purposely killed them.   That's what happens with this IVF jewelry ... the parents opt to kill the babies and then display their dead remains in jewelry.

They are not "babies". It's rediculous to project that.

They are embryos. Eggs. Ungrowing and inert until fertilized BY LIFE that already exists called "sperm" and given a suitable environment to grow. It is not possible to "murder" something not yet living.

Your statement makes me think of massive hip-hop medallions with babies in bottles decorated with bling.

So why not also make masturbation illegal because it is mass murder of sperm.

[FlyersFan]

They are not "babies". It's rediculous to project that.

They are unborn human babies .. living and developing and growing.
With a soul.   All human life has a soul.
They deserve dignity and respect.
They do not deserve to be murdered by their parents and then displayed in jewelry.

[RazorV66]

So clinical, scientific, and biologically precise... too bad we can't attain the same precision with the biology of the sexes.

Exactly.

And quite hilarious that they can't.

[Bootless]

Not really.   When someone dies and you get their ashes, you haven't purposely killed them.   That's what happens with this IVF jewelry ... the parents opt to kill the babies and then display their dead remains in jewelry.

See Nerb's post above. Oh! I see that you have already.

Okay. I will quote from Frankenstein by Mary Shelley regarding Frankenstein's retelling the death of his mother.

She died calmly, and her countenance expressed affection even in death. I need not describe the feelings of those whose dearest ties are rent by that most irreparable evil, the void that presents itself to the soul, and the despair that is exhibited on the countenance. It is so long before the mind can persuade itself that she whom we saw every day and whose very existence appeared a part of our own can have departed for ever—that the brightness of a beloved eye can have been extinguished and the sound of a voice so familiar and dear to the ear can be hushed, never more to be heard. These are the reflections of the first days; but when the lapse of time proves the reality of the evil, then the actual bitterness of grief commences. Yet from whom has not that rude hand rent away some dear connection? And why should I describe a sorrow which all have felt, and must feel? The time at length arrives when grief is rather an indulgence than a necessity; and the smile that plays upon the lips, although it may be deemed a sacrilege, is not banished. My mother was dead, but we had still duties which we ought to perform; we must continue our course with the rest and learn to think ourselves fortunate whilst one remains whom the spoiler has not seized.

It seems correct to state that there is a difference in the death of one you have interacted with as a person and the disposal or keeping of 4-6 cells.

I have imagined a most horrible and hideous scene:

The child, quite upset asks the parent: "Why, whenever you are mad at me, do you wave that ring in front of my face?"
and the parent replies: 
"Sometimes I wish I had a different child, and that you were in this ring."

A horrible thing for someone to say! So I have decided to boycott IVF completely. I will never get such jewelry.