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(11-06-2025, 09:05 PM)ANNEE Wrote: I think keeping ashes in an urn of a person who has died is gross.
Oh yeah -- they also now make jewelry with encased ashes.
What's acceptable to some and not others -- personal choice.
I guess you and I have a different opinion on children, born or unborn.
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(11-06-2025, 09:07 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: I guess you and I have a different opinion on children, born or unborn.
I support LIVING CHILDREN.
I will end it at that.
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(11-06-2025, 09:09 PM)ANNEE Wrote: I support LIVING CHILDREN.
I will end it at that.
Ironically, so do I.
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(11-06-2025, 09:12 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Ironically, so do I.

Do what exactly?
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(11-06-2025, 09:14 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Do what exactly?
Support living children.
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(11-06-2025, 09:25 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Support living children.

You support taking away free school lunches and healthcare for children.
However, my post on this topic did not even mention children.
Quote:ANNEE Wrote: I think keeping ashes in an urn of a person who has died is gross.
Oh yeah -- they also now make jewelry with encased ashes.
What's acceptable to some and not others -- personal choice.
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(11-06-2025, 09:31 PM)ANNEE Wrote: You support taking away free school lunches and healthcare for children.
However, my post on this topic did not even mention children.
No.
I just don't think we should support illegal aliens invading our country.
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11-07-2025, 01:49 AM
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(11-06-2025, 08:35 PM)argentus Wrote: Makes me wonder if God is contemplating another flood.
I'm surprised that no Bible thumper has come along to quote Genesis 9:11 and 2 Peter 3:5-7, 10.
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(11-07-2025, 01:49 AM)Bootless Wrote: I'm surprised that no Bible thumper has come along to quote Genesis 9:11 and 2 Peter 3:5-7, 10.
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You just did. lol
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11-07-2025, 03:45 AM
This post was last modified: 11-07-2025, 04:17 AM by putnam6. 
(11-06-2025, 07:45 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Naw, fetal pigs are much bigger than apples, and 5-7 day embryos are much smaller than skittles.
More like apples to plums. Both amgiosperms, both Rosaceae. Both edible fruits.
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if i cant outwardly tell which one becomes the human vs which one becomes the pig, should i really have a morality? Especially if they were created in a lab in excess deliberately, and only the idea that one is human gives it a specialness the other one doesnt get.
While I dont have a problem if people eat meat and legally hunt, I dont like the agenda to moralize blastocysts here. Demonize IVF by virtue of what is done with the largely discarded embryos.
It feels like the same goal behind The Unborn Victim of Violence Act that deliberately blurred lines and muddied up Roe V. Wade to create a paradox of precedent between killing a two month pregnant woman being a double homicide and abortions being allowed.
It was more written to surreptitiously do that then actually do law and order things.
Its a long established thing that IVF destroys several hundreds of thousands of embryos every year. Every successful implantation has all the ones that didn't.
So to include this into the moralizing, I cant help but see yet more of the same Evangelical Heritage Foundation Agenda being pushed.
And because I already look like a monster, my personal position (NOT applicable to anybody else), is that the independent life that bestows 14th amendment protection begins when they breath open-air oxygen for the first time.
The morality of when its okay vs when it isnt, or when one should feel bad about it seems like a moot cutoff people use to feel better about what is the same thing. It was viable. Well the earlier one would have become viable too.
Its all depriving an unborn developing life a chance. Its an arbitrary line of fuzzy morality.
And excess blastocysts in a tube is an even fuzzier morality. Especially being artificially created.
So clinical, scientific, and biologically precise... too bad we can't attain the same precision with the biology of the sexes.
Do some female fetal pigs aspire to be boy pigs? Or do some pretend to be human?
What's the intellectual ceiling of Sus domesticus compared to Homo Sapiens?
Could a pig with hands, proper scaffolding, and a Home Depot credit card touch up the painting at the Sistine Chapel?
If we were to hypothetically hook up Elon's neural link to Porky the pig, would he prose as well as IP the human?
I'd imagine Porky might be more concise and hopefully more empathetic, and a tad bit less dramatic
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Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is
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