Parents are killing their unborn children to make jewelry

[putnam6]

Can you tell I have a stronger moral response to animal rights than i do to parents using their unused embryos in jewelry?

Yeah, it's fairly obvious, wearing your emotions on your sleeve has been part of your daily fashion statement for a while.

[DontTreadOnMe]

I really dont view this embryonic glamor jewelry as much different from the process that sends fetal pigs to high school biology classes.  Its like an alternative of unused or likely to be discarded leftovers. 

Fetal pigs are not human embryos.
You are comparing apples and Skittles.

Fetal pigs are used to teach.
Jewelry is just so bourgeoisie.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Naw, fetal pigs are much bigger than apples, and 5-7 day embryos are much smaller than skittles. 

More like apples to plums.  Both amgiosperms, both Rosaceae. Both edible fruits. 

 



if i cant outwardly tell which one becomes the human vs which one becomes the pig, should i really have a morality? Especially if they were created in a lab in excess deliberately, and only the idea that one is human gives it a specialness the other one doesnt get.

While I dont have a problem if people eat meat and legally hunt, I dont like the agenda to moralize blastocysts here. Demonize IVF by virtue of what is done with the largely discarded embryos. 

It feels like the same goal behind The Unborn Victim of Violence Act that deliberately blurred lines and muddied up Roe V. Wade to create a paradox of precedent between killing a two month pregnant woman being a double homicide and abortions being allowed.  

It was more written to surreptitiously do that then actually do law and order things. 

Its a long established thing that IVF destroys several hundreds of thousands of embryos every year. Every successful implantation has all the ones that didn't. 

So to include this into the moralizing, I cant help but see yet more of the same Evangelical Heritage Foundation Agenda being pushed.  

And because I already look like a monster, my personal position (NOT applicable to anybody else), is that the independent life that bestows 14th amendment protection begins when they breath open-air oxygen for the first time.  

The morality of when its okay vs when it isnt, or when one should feel bad about it seems like a moot cutoff people use to feel better about what is the same thing. It was viable. Well the earlier one would have become viable too.

Its all depriving an unborn developing life a chance. Its an arbitrary line of fuzzy morality. 

And excess blastocysts in a tube is an even fuzzier morality. Especially being artificially created.

[DBCowboy]

God has abandoned us.

And rightly so, with this shit.

Disgusting.

[RazorV66]

God has abandoned us.

And rightly so, with this shit.

Disgusting.

And of course we can always tell who would come in and defend this sort of diabolical shit.

[DBCowboy]

And of course we can always tell who would come in and defend this sort of diabolical shit.

I used to feel pity for them, now it's just disdain.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

And of course we can always tell who would come in and defend this sort of diabolical shit.

Well...




Can I still believe that I cannot be saved? 

Nothing like an evangelical takeover to flesh out who's the adversary, right? Diabolism is too masochistic to be enjoyable though.

I really dont see whats so morally reprehensible if 15% of embryos get destroyed anyway.  They're not baby murder trophies. 

I guess you'd hate me too, because i think this is a perfect gift for a woman trying to conceive, provided she wasn't also morally opposed to the idea.

[argentus]

Makes me wonder if God is contemplating another flood.

[argentus]

Naw, fetal pigs are much bigger than apples, and 5-7 day embryos are much smaller than skittles. 

More like apples to plums.  Both amgiosperms, both Rosaceae. Both edible fruits. 

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if i cant outwardly tell which one becomes the human vs which one becomes the pig, should i really have a morality? Especially if they were created in a lab in excess deliberately, and only the idea that one is human gives it a specialness the other one doesnt get.

While I dont have a problem if people eat meat and legally hunt, I dont like the agenda to moralize blastocysts here. Demonize IVF by virtue of what is done with the largely discarded embryos. 

It feels like the same goal behind The Unborn Victim of Violence Act that deliberately blurred lines and muddied up Roe V. Wade to create a paradox of precedent between killing a two month pregnant woman being a double homicide and abortions being allowed.  

It was more written to surreptitiously do that then actually do law and order things. 

Its a long established thing that IVF destroys several hundreds of thousands of embryos every year. Every successful implantation has all the ones that didn't. 

So to include this into the moralizing, I cant help but see yet more of the same Evangelical Heritage Foundation Agenda being pushed.  

And because I already look like a monster, my personal position (NOT applicable to anybody else), is that the independent life that bestows 14th amendment protection begins when they breath open-air oxygen for the first time.  

The morality of when its okay vs when it isnt, or when one should feel bad about it seems like a moot cutoff people use to feel better about what is the same thing. It was viable. Well the earlier one would have become viable too.

Its all depriving an unborn developing life a chance. Its an arbitrary line of fuzzy morality. 

And excess blastocysts in a tube is an even fuzzier morality. Especially being artificially created.

You stated your view very purely.   Well done.     Some of what you said I disagree with, but I must respect a case so well stated.

[ANNEE]

I think keeping ashes in an urn of a person who has died is gross.

Oh yeah -- they also now make jewelry with encased ashes.

What's acceptable to some and not others -- personal choice.