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On Consciousness
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While I appreciate the "paradigm shift" I can't do the ethereal consciousness thing. I buy the synapses materialist version.

My Father has alzheimers. Started off slowly now he's getting worse and worse. Apart from being sad, If his consciousness was a manifestation of beyond the physical it wouldn't deteriorate with his physical brain.

The only other answer, if his software is not from his hardware, is an external causal agent that really acts like a total fucking sadist. Like, "Muhahahaha I'm going make your father think you're still a Sophomore in college as everyone cries silently because they can't help it."

Also, what's up with this causal source and schizophrenics? They have an alternate consciousness running. That's messed up. Like a twisted programmer programming an NPC to be batshit and yell at phantoms.

"You will think you're reflection is a ninja and fight it with a stick you found!"

It would have to be. If you're going to say our consciousness is an ethereal thing we experience, but not a product of our own synapses and volition, you are arguing for the hard determinism that probability waves themselves defy. For consciousness to be from beyond the material there would be a rigid X = Y flow without free will or observer effects.

These topics usually devolve into existential eye glossing metaphysical stuff. But if your arguing consciousness is a metaphysical thing you have to work around the hard (metaphysical) determinism that entails.
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On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-06-2024, 12:02 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by midicon - 08-06-2024, 01:04 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-06-2024, 01:40 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by midicon - 08-06-2024, 01:57 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-06-2024, 02:56 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by midicon - 08-06-2024, 03:35 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by Maxmars - 08-06-2024, 03:44 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-06-2024, 04:01 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by midicon - 08-07-2024, 12:04 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-08-2024, 05:02 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by midicon - 08-09-2024, 04:59 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by l0st - 08-08-2024, 11:29 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-09-2024, 11:49 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-10-2024, 09:40 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by l0st - 08-23-2024, 02:12 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-23-2024, 09:55 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by l0st - 08-23-2024, 06:06 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by Karl12 - 08-09-2024, 12:43 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by midicon - 08-10-2024, 12:57 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-12-2024, 04:22 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by Karl12 - 08-10-2024, 04:44 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by IdeomotorPrisoner - 08-12-2024, 10:44 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-13-2024, 11:37 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-14-2024, 07:46 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by Swada - 08-14-2024, 07:01 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-13-2024, 06:54 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-14-2024, 03:54 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by Karl12 - 08-14-2024, 07:55 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by Maxmars - 08-23-2024, 04:42 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-24-2024, 12:48 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-23-2024, 07:46 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by l0st - 08-23-2024, 08:34 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-25-2024, 05:01 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-25-2024, 08:43 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-26-2024, 05:16 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by l0st - 09-04-2024, 08:48 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-27-2024, 09:08 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by Maxmars - 08-30-2024, 09:19 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-31-2024, 06:52 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 09-01-2024, 02:00 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 09-02-2024, 04:43 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 09-17-2024, 11:03 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by l0st - 09-24-2024, 01:23 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by UltraBudgie - 09-30-2024, 10:10 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by l0st - 10-03-2024, 11:23 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 10-04-2024, 04:38 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by UltraBudgie - 10-04-2024, 05:06 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by l0st - 10-17-2024, 08:48 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by Maxmars - 10-04-2024, 06:13 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 10-04-2024, 08:17 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by Maxmars - 10-04-2024, 09:24 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 10-05-2024, 03:40 PM

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