09-15-2024, 02:17 AM
Don't think anyone is any closer to identifying UFO origin but do think a pretty strong case can be made for official government UFO investigations attempting to deceive the general public and initiate a 'cover up' of information.
Regarding official historical government deception we've got major manipulation over the actual numbers of 'actual unknowns'; reams of missing 'hot reports' which never even reached Bluebook (and completely ridiculous explanations for many that did) and unscientific 'scientific' investigations abused by intel agencies to 'debunk' the phenomena.. with the popular 'debunkers' of the time also having known ties to said agencies.
Probably boring for some but this is an ongoing research thread dealing with highly dubious (or blatantly bullshit) USAF UFO explanations - a lot of the source material has gone for good these days but the updated info is posted below and please share if you know of any other examples.
• Spurious, contrived or just plain ridiculous 'official' government UFO explanations:
Granted many folks not really into UFO research just unquestioningly accept these USAF debunks without a second look but if a person examines the case histories then many of the explanations simply fail to stand up - here's what American physicist Dr James E. Mcdonald had to say about it:
From 10:00
Bluebook's chief scientific consultant Dr J. Allen Hynek also stated in a 1968 letter that the project had conducted 'virtually no dialogue' with the outside scientific world and employed statistical methods that were 'nothing less than a travesty' - he also shares his thoughts below on Bluebook's debunking agenda and describes how they 'jumped handsprings' to keep the hot reports away from the public:
Regarding official historical government deception we've got major manipulation over the actual numbers of 'actual unknowns'; reams of missing 'hot reports' which never even reached Bluebook (and completely ridiculous explanations for many that did) and unscientific 'scientific' investigations abused by intel agencies to 'debunk' the phenomena.. with the popular 'debunkers' of the time also having known ties to said agencies.
Probably boring for some but this is an ongoing research thread dealing with highly dubious (or blatantly bullshit) USAF UFO explanations - a lot of the source material has gone for good these days but the updated info is posted below and please share if you know of any other examples.
• Spurious, contrived or just plain ridiculous 'official' government UFO explanations:
Granted many folks not really into UFO research just unquestioningly accept these USAF debunks without a second look but if a person examines the case histories then many of the explanations simply fail to stand up - here's what American physicist Dr James E. Mcdonald had to say about it:
From 10:00
Quote:• "As a result of several trips to Project Bluebook, Ive had an opportunity to examine quite carefully and in detail the types of reports that are made by Bluebook personnel. In most cases, I have found that there's almost no correlation between so-called "evaluations and explanations" that are made by Bluebook and the facts of the case.. There are hundreds of good cases in the Air Force files that should have led to top-level scientific scrutiny of this problem, years ago, yet these cases have been swept under the rug in a most disturbing way by Project Bluebook investigators and their consultants."
Dr James McDonald -Senior Physicist at the Institute for Atmospheric Physics and Professor in the Department of Meteorology at the University of Arizona.
Archive:
'UFO Symposium Casefiles'
Bluebook's chief scientific consultant Dr J. Allen Hynek also stated in a 1968 letter that the project had conducted 'virtually no dialogue' with the outside scientific world and employed statistical methods that were 'nothing less than a travesty' - he also shares his thoughts below on Bluebook's debunking agenda and describes how they 'jumped handsprings' to keep the hot reports away from the public:
Quote:• "When Major Quintanilla came in, the flag of the utter nonsense school was flying at its highest on the mast. Now he had a certain Sgt. Moody assisting him...Moody epitomized the conviction-before-trial method. Anything that he didn't understand or didn't like was immediately put into the psychological category, which meant "crackpot." He would not ever say that the person who reported a case was a fairly respectable person, maybe we should look into it, or maybe we should find out. He was also the master of the possible: possible balloon, possible aircraft, possible birds, which then became, by his own hand (and I argued with him violently at times), the probable; he said, well, we have no category "possible" aircraft. It is therefore either unidentified or aircraft. Well, it is more likely aircraft; therefore it is aircraft.... An "unidentified" to Moody was not a challenge for further research. To have it remain unidentified was a blot... and he did everything to remove it. He went back to cases from Captain Gregory's days and way back in Ruppelt's days and redid the files. A lot that were unidentified in those days he "identified" years and years later".
Dr J Allen Hynek, chief scientific consultant for Air Force investigations of UFOs from 1948 until 1969 (Projects Sign, Grudge and Blue Book).
E-book:
'The UFO Experience : A Scientific Inquiry'