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No more 72 shots for new born babies
(02-08-2026, 10:14 AM)quintessentone Wrote: It does not necessarily have to go down any deep rabbit hole except the social media rabbit hole of choice that meets with one's beliefs and not evidence within science.

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"Overall, while diehard anti-vaxxers are a small minority globallyvaccine hesitancy remains a major public health challenge, driven by misinformation, distrust in authorities, and social identity movements—particularly among pro-nature, anti-conventional medicine communities in Europe and North America"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/healt...64441.html

Gotcha. People that are warning people to avoid vaccines are spreading misinformation. I certainly do not trust authorities. My wife and I also hate social media and do not participate. We don't require social validation. You can post endless links why vaccines are good and why anti-vaxxers are bad. Just as you can post endless links showing factual data about how damaging vaccines are, especially the covid gene therapy shots which are not really vaccines.

Have you watched these documentaries? Are the folks injured a necessary price to pay for the greater good?
https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/...ed-movies/

Remember years ago when a few people died from a new vaccine and it was immediately pulled from the market. But now it seems to be OK for people to die from shots. I wonder why? Bill Gates knows.
(02-08-2026, 10:30 AM)figureitout Wrote: Gotcha. People that are warning people to avoid vaccines are spreading misinformation. I certainly do not trust authorities. My wife and I also hate social media and do not participate. We don't require social validation. You can post endless links why vaccines are good and why anti-vaxxers are bad. Just as you can post endless links showing factual data about how damaging vaccines are, especially the covid gene therapy shots which are not really vaccines.

Have you watched these documentaries? Are the folks injured a necessary price to pay for the greater good?
https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/...ed-movies/

Remember years ago when a few people died from a new vaccine and it was immediately pulled from the market. But now it seems to be OK for people to die from shots. I wonder why? Bill Gates knows.

I read recent scientific studies which still come to the same conclusions, in that, vaccines are safer than the disease and side effects are rare. To be fair, they also state that more research is needed, so until then, governments around the world are still rolling the vaccinations out and recommending them to people.
"The only journey is the one within."
(02-08-2026, 10:37 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I read recent scientific studies which still come to the same conclusions, in that, vaccines are safer than the disease and side effects are rare. To be fair, they also state that more research is needed, so until then, governments around the world are still rolling the vaccinations out and recommending them to people.

You do know the scientific studies done by big pharma are mostly junk. There are plenty of contradicting scientific studies done by folks with no conflict of interest that disagree with big pharma studies.

This is an interesting story. Always follow the money.
Some biodefense history...
https://merylnass.substack.com/p/just-ad...se-history

And to clarify my position. I am a pro-vaxxer and support depopulation. But I personally don't inject drugs. 

What I find to be most amazing is that people in general actually think that big pharma cares about them and their health.
(02-08-2026, 10:51 AM)figureitout Wrote: You do know the scientific studies done by big pharma are mostly junk. There are plenty of contradicting scientific studies done by folks with no conflict of interest that disagree with big pharma studies.

This is an interesting story. Always follow the money.
Some biodefense history...
https://merylnass.substack.com/p/just-ad...se-history

And to clarify my position. I am a pro-vaxxer and support depopulation. But I personally don't inject drugs. 

What I find to be most amazing is that people in general actually think that big pharma cares about them and their health.

Thanks for the reminder to follow the money and to distinguish between observational vs. clinical studies, I will continue to do that because there may very well be a conspiracy there.

I am a pro-vaxxer but only because of my trust of the science so far, but I am willing to change my mind with the right kind of study funded by the right kind of group, and I do not support depopulation because birth rates are falling at alarming rates for most countries, worldwide, and that spells societal collapse.

It would appear nobody really cares.

"Pharmaceutical companies have largely avoided funding research into long COVID treatments, despite the condition affecting hundreds of millions globally.  The lack of investment stems from perceptions of long COVID as a high-risk, low-reward therapeutic area due to its poorly understood mechanisms and multisystemic nature. Big Pharma and private investors see it as a "shot in the dark," with limited commercial potential compared to acute COVID-19 treatments or vaccines. 
While government initiatives like the NIH’s $1.7 billion RECOVER program exist, they have prioritized observational studies over clinical trials for new drugs. Most RECOVER-funded trials focus on repurposing existing approved drugs, not developing novel compounds. Private funding is nearly nonexistent—a senior analyst at PitchBook confirms no known investments in long COVID therapeutics.  Even companies with existing COVID-19 treatments, like Pfizer, are not sponsoring long COVID trials. 

Biotech firms developing potential treatments, such as Aim ImmunoTech and Laurent Pharmaceuticals, are funding their efforts from internal resources, but this is unsustainable.  At least four companies have shut down due to lack of funding, and others are reconsidering their focus. Pharma’s reluctance is also influenced by branding concerns: failing a long COVID trial could negatively impact perceptions of their acute-phase drugs. As a result, R&D for long COVID is collapsing, with critical research stalled and potential therapies abandoned." (LLM)

https://cen.acs.org/pharmaceuticals/drug...ng/102/i30
"The only journey is the one within."
I am also adding myself to those who trust science... not PR statistics.

Most of the 'studies' what we call Big Pharma does are marketing work, commercial platforms...

Chemical formulations are needlessly changed to support profit-taking.
Pharma reads "Tried and true" as "Tired and unprofitable."
Cures are anathema. 
Their pursuit is economically, (and 'otherways,') discouraged as 'wasteful.'

The confrontation that had to come, and must (probably) happen, is being thwarted by our political parties and their open-pocket agents... lobbyists who bounce from 'working for' and then 'overseeing' Big Pharma.

The Big Pharma marketing is a world-wide, mouth-agape, rub your eyes and check your ears, travesty.

Imagine... listing medical symptoms on a medical commercial... not to help... but to sell.

All of that was, and is, strictly "doctor/professional" business...

Now, it appears the younger generations are so enamored of the ad glamour, they imagine they have every illness they hear of.

No other place on Earth allows that kind of injudicious, spurious, random doom porn from the Pharma think-tanks...  "We have a potion for that."

Vaccinations are a sound principle for dealing with the hazards of living in an open environment.

Gimmickry and "quasi-political" intrigue are what holds us in thrall.

Please forgive my bluntness...

"Pharma" brought themselves to this point.
They can suck it.  Even the 'good they have done' is flushed away...

They are merchandising illness... full "pharma-think" in view.

If the medicines are so very important that they need be "advertised"...
why not just tell a doctor - the only person who can actually prescribe it?

They want us to feel sick.  Always...and forever.

They are ready to craft you a solution... a forever solution.
Always remember guys, just because the covid vaccine was not good, someday a real threat might occur where it necessitates getting a vaccine to live.  Hopefully it is not an mRNA vaccine they create for a REAL pandemic

I may not be able to take some vaccines  because I get cytokine or Bradykin storms, but I do believe a real threat may occur some day and don't want to only be surrounded by people who are brainwashed that vaccines are necessary for every little disease to survive, that will eventually lead to mandating all vaccines because majority rules and they will change the law and I will probably die from the flu vaccine since I have had such bad reactions in the past.  I also had a bad reaction to the DTAP, my reaction actually was about the same as when I had whooping cough but no fever with the storm I got for that and I had no fever with either flu vaccines either...but I do not know if the flu vaccines target induced a fever....the doctor who witnessed it said it was a reaction, not the illness.  I will believe that doctor who had decades of experience over some brainwashed dr or person who did not witness it.  Either way, doctors said I can get just the single tetnus vaccine instead of the dtap and it is in my medical records that I am severly intolerant to the flu shot.
Anti-government = Anti-vax

“Logic” that confuses the brain. 

I’m personally of the group that sees history and the eradication of many debilitating diseases. 

There’s science and then there’s politics. 

I’m capable of separating the two.
My problem is that we allowed these "make-believe" leaders "tell us" what we should do.

That is not their job.

Their job is to keep the country sound and whole.. on an even keel.

Their 'so-designated' experts were partisan and commerce players and 'friends' and 'donors'... THAT'S where the problem began...

People fought hard-core in the scientific community to air their objections of the status quo under Fauci's administration... mostly ending in career stagnation or departure.

He had been hell-bent on a particular kind of research that caused a ban from the political side.

He "devised" a strategy to fund research the "United States" had forbidden.

The rest is sordid history.

My problem isn't "The Science"...

It is squarely on the fact that the "Vaccination" was neither a vaccination, nor had such technology EVER had been tested on humans... and clearly did not one thing they swore it would do.... which went from "safe and effective" to "sudden, and unexpected.)

But it's all good... we were their "research" subjects...
And in the prevailing narrative...

If you didn't get COVID ... you must thank them.

Because it is a known fact that once a virus travels in a human population EVERYONE WILL GET IT AND DIE.
NO CAN BE SAFE WITHOUT IT... DON'T KILL MY GRANDMA...

It was Orwelian-level mind-fuckery... (pardon the obscenity)

Whatever COVID was, manifested as a hard flu.
Our species was not at risk...
So they killed our societies and economies... instead.
They maimed a generation of children...

No worries... preemptively-indemnified... you know 'crisis' and all that...

"Let's give this a try... everyone... on the planet.... right now."

This is not anti-vaxx, it's not anti-science...

Whatever happens to them is on them...
since they are only well-paid opportunist front-men.
(At least, the ones on TV  seem to be. Tongue)
(02-08-2026, 10:30 AM)figureitout Wrote: Have you watched these documentaries? Are the folks injured a necessary price to pay for the greater good?
https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/...ed-movies/

Have you researched who's behind Children Health Defense?

They also claim vaccinations cause Autism.

Brian S. Hooker is known for promoting the false claim that vaccines cause autism.
 . .  known for his anti-vaccine activism and his claims of conflicts of interest within the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. He was a board member of Focus Autism, (now called Focus for Health) an organization which believes in the "ongoing cover-up of the vaccine/autism link". Hooker has no background or qualifications in epidemiology.
 
Hooker and Andrew Wakefield have alleged scientific fraud, conspiracy, and coverup on the part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention with regard to the supposed link between vaccines and autism. An online video describing this situation was debunked by Snopes.
(02-08-2026, 03:49 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Have you researched who's behind Children Health Defense?

They also claim vaccinations cause Autism.

Brian S. Hooker is known for promoting the false claim that vaccines cause autism.
 . .  known for his anti-vaccine activism and his claims of conflicts of interest within the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. He was a board member of Focus Autism, (now called Focus for Health) an organization which believes in the "ongoing cover-up of the vaccine/autism link". Hooker has no background or qualifications in epidemiology.
 
Hooker and Andrew Wakefield have alleged scientific fraud, conspiracy, and coverup on the part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention with regard to the supposed link between vaccines and autism. An online video describing this situation was debunked by Snopes.

These anti-vaxxers and science deniers have already caused damage, in that, mRNA vaccine R&D study cuts are happening. The programming and/or confusion created for people to not trust the science thereby affecting a decline in research may result in a pandemic that we can't won't be able to control, next time.

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"Clinical trials and vaccine production took place simultaneously, and no steps were skipped.  Both Moderna and Pfizer carried out large studies of their mRNA vaccine candidates,  enrolling  tens of thousands of volunteers.  
 It usually takes several years to develop a new vaccine  based on  traditional methods. But it  took  less than a year to roll out  not just one but two  roughly equivalent, highly effective  mRNA  COVID-19  vaccines.  
 
As a result, millions of lives have been saved.
 
However, throughout the pandemic and  to  this day, vaccine skeptics  have  had an outsize impact, sowing  doubt and fear  related to the very technology that  was saving  lives and protecting all of us against the worst effects of the coronavirus.  
 
Now,  the skeptical view has become mainstream with cuts happening to  mRNA vaccine research projects, which  will affect our ability to successfully manage future pandemics.
 
https://weillcornell.org/news/here%E2%80...a-vaccines

I hope future of fighting cancer with mRNA vax won't be affected by anti-vaxxers.

"mRNA technology is revolutionizing cancer research by enabling the development of highly personalized and adaptable cancer vaccines and immunotherapies.  The success of mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines has accelerated interest and investment in using mRNA for cancer treatment, leveraging its ability to rapidly instruct cells to produce specific tumor antigens and stimulate a targeted immune response"

https://www.nature.com/articles/d42473-024-00028-z
"The only journey is the one within."



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