No more 72 shots for new born babies

[Blaine91555]

The simple fact that some primative, 3rd world countries have healthier babies than the US should be enough to make this change, if implemented as titled, a step in the right direction.

I'm skeptical myself.  I can't see that large of an "attack" on big pharma happening so quickly.   Words are meaningless until actions support them

Is that true? "Primitive" would need to be defined? All I can find are lists that include small populations, wealthier countries.  Not primitive hell holes where mortality rates are sky high. I suppose less-than-honest Snake Oil Sales outfits might make that up to market exotic woo-woo supplements popular in the latest health fads. Lots of that on the Internet. 

China's mortality rates were very high and life expectancies very low prior to China adopting Western Medicine and legislating it into the dark corners of the grey market. I remember looking at the pre- and post numbers, and China's life expectancy nearly doubled in very short order. Infant mortality is very high in primitive environments, I'm fairly certain.

[EXETER]

Google AI Assist - How Hep B is transmitted - 

Hepatitis B (HBV) spreads through contact with infected blood, semen, or other body fluids, primarily via sexual contact, sharing needles/injection equipment, from infected mothers to babies during birth, and through contaminated personal items like razors or toothbrushes. It's a hardy virus that can survive on surfaces for over a week, but it's not spread through casual contact like hugging, coughing, sneezing, or sharing food/water.

Okay ... so why does a baby just hours old need a vaccination for this?   They don't get infected blood transfusions, they don't get doused in semen or other body fluids, and they don't have sexual contact which is the primary way Hep B is transmitted.

So why give an hours old baby shots for this?  ....

Because babies typically come in contact with many different adults, as soon as they go home from the hospital.  Mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. etc.  Most of the population is not screened for Hep B, and most people who have it don't show symptoms for many years--usually when they start showing the effects of liver damage.

[Vermilion]

Lefties: We should be more like Europe.

Trump admin: Ok, well drop inoculations from 72 to 11 just like Europe.

Lefties: Nooooo. Not like that!!!!!

[EXETER]

Somehow the vaccine empire has to be unwound to something more reasonable. Another approach is to remove the doctors financial incentive to give as many jabs as possible. Let the unwinding begin.

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Doctors don't have a financial incentive to "give as many jabs as possible".  Doctor's offices are reimbursed by insurance about $20 per shot for administering a vaccine.  That amount is basically intended to cover the administrative costs of stocking the vaccines in cold storage, paying for the nurse's time, etc.  In many cases, the doctor's offices don't break even on administering shots. And insurance won't reimburse anyone unless the medical records show that the individual actually needs the vaccine (meaning they haven't had that vaccine yet, or they're due for a booster). A doctor can't get reimbursed for giving vaccinations just for the fun of it.  The actual cost of the vaccine itself, per shot and without insurance, is on the order of $100, but the doctor doesn't see that money--it goes to the pharmaceutical company.

[ArMaP]

Lefties: We should be more like Europe.

Trump admin: Ok, well drop inoculations from 72 to 11 just like Europe.

Lefties: Nooooo. Not like that!!!!!

Inoculations for 11 diseases, not 11 inoculations.

[quintessentone]

Inoculations for 11 diseases, not 11 inoculations.

Why are they running with the delusion?

[Maxmars]

Why are they running with the delusion?

I would wager because the 'disinformation' will have a place within a narrative to come...

especially one 'blaming' someone else for 'spreading it.'

"Mis" and "Dis" information are common 'tools of the trade' now...

[quintessentone]

I would wager because the 'disinformation' will have a place within a narrative to come...

especially one 'blaming' someone else for 'spreading it.'

"Mis" and "Dis" information are common 'tools of the trade' now...

Absolutely, is it that nobody really bothers to read what is posted, or that in their minds they twist it?

[Maxmars]

Absolutely, is it that nobody really bothers to read what is posted, or that in their minds they twist it?

I think that is a symptom... not the disease itself...

If we allow things to continue with the media 'creating' history for "consumption" we are going to pay a hefty price for the deliberate acts of ignorance that manifest themselves within the 'historical' "record."

People in conversation often seem to rely exclusively on what they have already accepted... and shun anything that might be cause for reevaluation.  When you add the fact that the media itself is "using" the estate for the purposes of indoctrinating future citizens... changing journalism to self-expression, it worries me for our future.

Sorry to OT on that.... sometime, you just need to let it out.


The problem I think always has been on whether we can 'trust' those people making decisions... and the one's we have 'employed' for decades and decades have pretty much ALL been pharmaceutical company executives... go figure.

Now their allies will rant endlessly about how we can't trust their replacements....

I can't help but notice that wherever government interfaces with Big business... trust is out the window either way.

[Maxmars]

Hey man, we are derailing this thread.

Why aren't you giving yourself and me a warning?

Or is it because we have to cut through to being real and talking about what is real?

Well... I do apologize... and I really did try to redirect the post...

I'm only a human being, trying to be a member and a moderator....
the two often get muddled...
But y'all keep me honest.  

Thanks for listening...  

but having been called out...
I should leave for a while...

MM