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Here are some points on the New US/UK TRADE AGREEMENT, notice the 10% stays
Ive highlighted the most important parts for our British cousins
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/whats-us-...37565.html
Quote:Below are some of the main points from the agreement:
BASIC 10% TARIFF
U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said the 10% basic tariff rate would remain in place.
CAR TARIFFS
The British government said the deal will reduce tariffs on some British-made cars from 27.5% to 10%.
British carmakers will be given a quota of 100,000 cars a year that can be sent to the United States at the lower tariff rate, almost the total Britain exported last year, the British government said.
STEEL TARIFFS
The British government also said 25% tariffs currently imposed on British steel exports to the U.S. will be reduced to zero.
PLANES
Lutnick said British companies will now be able to export plane parts to the United States tariff-free.
In return, a British airline is expected to buy $10 billion of Boeing aeroplanes.
AGRICULTURAL TARIFFS
The British government said there would be "reciprocal market access on beef" with British farmers given a tariff free quota for 13,000 metric tonnes.
Britain will also remove tariffs on U.S. ethanol – which is used to produce beer.
FURTHER TALKS
The two sides will continue trying to agree a broader deal that will cover pharmaceuticals and reducing the remaining reciprocal tariffs.
The U.S. has also agreed that the UK will get preferential treatment in any further tariffs imposed as part of Section 232 investigations which give the U.S. president powers to restrict imports if they are found to threaten national security.
The UK Digital Services Tax remains unchanged.
(Reporting by Andrew MacAskill; Editing by Kate Holton)
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05-08-2025, 11:33 AM
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"Britain will also remove tariffs on U.S. ethanol – which is used to produce beer."
I didn't know that!
Oh. Seems ethanol is a natural product from the fermentation process:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...8912000419
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(05-08-2025, 10:52 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Is this the short stories thread or the premonitions and predictions thread?
Percentages, on something like what you are suggesting, occurring are less than 5%, probably lower
But of course, our collective paranoia and fear of war is particularly high, and it's always on the cusp, especially now.
Reality is...
It depends on whether the MIC war machine is satiated with just Russia/Ukraine, Israel/Gaza/Hezbollah/Syria, and India/Pakistan
How these conflicts end, and how soon, all 3 of these situations could easily escalate unless diplomacy is firmly applied to the situation
Not sure why you think Trump's wars would arise from paranoia or fear, when it is reality. He wants war with Iran...why?... just because they want nuclear arms the same as everyone else? I think not, he's got the coffers to fill and what better fills them than wars?
The best way to avoid wars with other countries is through fair trade when both sides have something to gain.
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05-08-2025, 01:17 PM
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(05-08-2025, 12:45 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Not sure why you think Trump's wars would arise from paranoia or fear, when it is reality. He wants war with Iran...why?... just because they want nuclear arms the same as everyone else? I think not, he's got the coffers to fill and what better fills them than wars?
The best way to avoid wars with other countries is through fair trade when both sides have something to gain.
Again generally WCSWNFB
So, which country exactly is poised to attack America over tariffs
And who is America ready to attack?
FFS Q
https://x.com/i/grok/share/GWbBE63QvXFEkOEvRfENwyZZx
Trump’s first term involved ~7 engagements, with no new wars, placing him in the middle range compared to past presidents. His second term has ~3 engagements so far, with Yemen escalating. Presidents like Carter (1) and Ford (1–2) had fewer conflicts, while G.W. Bush (3–5) and Obama (4–5) had comparable or more. Claims of Trump having "no wars" are misleading, as he actively participated in multiple conflicts, though he initiated none, like Carter, Ford, and others.
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I thought I'd never say this, but I agree with Marjorie T. Greene that Trump's campaign promise was for peace and this is not what he's doing. Most Americans want things fixed at home not to start wars 'over there' where there is no threat to the U.S. There is no spinning this any other way.
Your country needs to veer away from the war machine industry to the manufacturing industry. That's what the people wanted, isn't it?
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(05-08-2025, 01:25 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I thought I'd never say this, but I agree with Marjorie T. Greene that Trump's campaign promise was for peace and this is not what he's doing. Most Americans want things fixed at home not to start wars 'over there' where there is no threat to the U.S. There is no spinning this any other way.
Your country needs to veer away from the war machine industry to the manufacturing industry. That's what the people wanted, isn't it?
We aren't going to war with Iran or anybody else FFS... It's easy to pick someone who says something you agree with, but it doesn't mean that person has a clue what is going on with the administration
MTG is nothing but a political agitator, and she thought she would get an appointment from Trump.
She is much better suited as a political agitator than a Trump cabinet member. But again
just another WCSWNFB post
So, which country exactly is poised to attack America over tariffs
And who is America ready to attack?
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"And who is America ready to attack?"
Iran? Panama? Greenland?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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05-08-2025, 03:07 PM
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(05-08-2025, 02:24 PM)putnam6 Wrote: We aren't going to war with Iran or anybody else FFS... It's easy to pick someone who says something you agree with, but it doesn't mean that person has a clue what is going on with the administration
MTG is nothing but a political agitator, and she thought she would get an appointment from Trump.
She is much better suited as a political agitator than a Trump cabinet member. But again
just another WCSWNFB post
So, which country exactly is poised to attack America over tariffs
And who is America ready to attack?
Did Trump say this?
"Former U.S. President Donald Trump issued a stark ultimatum to Iran on Wednesday, stating that Tehran must either agree to dismantle its nuclear program through a deal or face potential military strikes aimed at destroying its nuclear infrastructure.
In an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, Trump said he prefers a "strong and verifiable deal" that would allow the U.S. to "literally blow up" Iran's centrifuges — but warned he is fully prepared to "blow them up viciously" through military force if necessary.
“There are only two options,” Trump declared. “Blow them up smartly, or blow them up brutally.”"
https://www.jordannews.jo/Section-111/Al...tion-41726
Which American battle ships 'over there' are poised to attack?
Mark 9:00 onwards on Iran:
Why only Iran? Why not threaten to blow up N. Korea or give them an ultimatum too?
This is BS and it has nothing to do with the threat of nuclear weapons.
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05-08-2025, 03:36 PM
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(05-08-2025, 03:07 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Did Trump say this?
"Former U.S. President Donald Trump issued a stark ultimatum to Iran on Wednesday, stating that Tehran must either agree to dismantle its nuclear program through a deal or face potential military strikes aimed at destroying its nuclear infrastructure.
In an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, Trump said he prefers a "strong and verifiable deal" that would allow the U.S. to "literally blow up" Iran's centrifuges — but warned he is fully prepared to "blow them up viciously" through military force if necessary.
“There are only two options,” Trump declared. “Blow them up smartly, or blow them up brutally.”"
https://www.jordannews.jo/Section-111/Al...tion-41726
Which American battle ships 'over there' are poised to attack?
WCSWNFB...
Let's see how Iran responds, they might yell scream and piss and moan, but they will not go to war over with America this. They just will not
How would they exactly?
It's no different than not one inch of NATO land, it's a warning... Iran has been degraded, and the population is ready for a revolt.
Russia can't back them, they need every bullet for Ukraine
Here's what Grok ascertains about the impending all-out war with Iran.... IF the US were to bomb Iran's nuclear program, thats a big if.
What else do you want to discuss that has a 10% or less chance of occurring?
https://x.com/i/grok/share/QHZ9ecZlEE7q0H6lW8aLhzhz4
Quote:Scenarios and Probabilities
- Limited Retaliation (Most Likely):
- Iran responds with missile strikes on U.S. bases or Israeli targets, proxy attacks, or cyberattacks, aiming to save face without triggering a full war. Both sides de-escalate after initial exchanges, as seen in past Iran-U.S./Israel clashes. Probability: ~60-70%.
- Escalation to Regional Conflict:
- Iran’s retaliation causes significant casualties or disrupts energy markets, prompting further U.S./Israeli strikes. Iran doubles down, possibly racing for a nuclear weapon, leading to a broader but still contained conflict. Probability: ~20-30%.
- All-Out War:
- A miscalculation (e.g., Iran targets civilian sites, or the U.S. aims for regime change) spirals into a large-scale war involving multiple regional actors. This is unlikely due to both sides’ incentives to avoid catastrophic costs. Probability: ~5-10%.
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(05-08-2025, 03:36 PM)putnam6 Wrote: WCSWNFB...
Let's see how Iran responds, they might yell scream and piss and moan, but they will not go to war over with America this. They just will not
How would they exactly?
It's no different than not one inch of NATO land, it's a warning... Iran has been degraded, and the population is ready for a revolt.
Russia can't back them, they need every bullet for Ukraine
Here's what Grok ascertains about the impending all-out war with Iran.... IF the US were to bomb Iran's nuclear program, thats a big if.
What else do you want to discuss that has a 10% or less chance of occurring?
https://x.com/i/grok/share/QHZ9ecZlEE7q0H6lW8aLhzhz4
You are missing the point.
Why not N. Korea too? They are your enemy, they have nuclear weapons too? Why let them slide?
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