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(01-13-2025, 05:10 PM)pianopraze Wrote: I change all the affirmations to Christian.
Not welcoming anything…. Else…
Again I usually only do the focus ten. Everything after 12 seems… not for me.
i do enjoy the feeling entraining of the brain waves from the hemi-synch.
not much on the new age-y stuff from the rest.
that was not what was used from this tech, the brain-entrainment is the useful part.
I don't think the orbs are real, or rather I don't really care about that. Just documenting what's happening to me going through the tapes and going with the flow.
Combining this with prayer would be a powerful and a amazing experience, one of the sessions is very much just like prayer (Gateway Experience Wave 3 Track 4 - Five Questions ). It's a pity about the stigma around these practices. Just like drugs I think allot of things was declared verboten without actually understanding what's happening and perhaps proper meditation was included with prayer at some point and lost to time.
Last night was amazing, so much energy from the full moon. I was dancing. New age, old age, all the same. If your looking for magic it's right here.
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So this took some dark and interesting turns, I'm ready to try and summon something. I'm way over the halfway mark and going into the advanced stuff.
Dark because I looked into the history and most people involved in the creation of the tapes met their fate apparently by the CIA and to be fair there was maybe a reason for them to go in. It's all just conspiracy stuff so peace and love to all
The experience itself thus far? Intense hallucinations, imagine a person suddenly appearing right in your face and you getting slammed into the bed. I saw clowns..cartoons, good times Most of the time it's all good though and just meditation, I have been doing it for 25 years.
I make changes to the instruction as they are a bit boring. Like the box to store your fears and worries and tears in. My mind would wonder forever from this or that if I left it there. The box has sides. I imbue each side with an aspect about myself. One side is for fear, another is a flame, one for health and the rest are personal. Every time a thought intrudes I make the symbol on the box that corresponds glow and suck up the thought. I also shrink it down and carry it on a chain around my belt. Why you would just leave your stuff out there in the astral plane is beyond me? Everything keeps evolving, always a little bit every session. Give your mind something to do if you have trouble focusing, I heard someone complain today.
For most instructions it is like that and things evolve over time.
Throughout the day allot of things glows. Synchronicity is also major issue and what is going to fuck me up in the end so I will have to pull out at some point.
I found a way to visualize how we move through time, or rather what happens when you change and lock certain axis's. The Clifford torus is two circles in 4D space and a donut in 3D. This donut is also magnetic fields so those two circles are everywhere in 4D. It also happens to be the shape of our auroras and I think everything else. Energy in other words.
This gif is the 4D circles moving and you can see what happen in 3D space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_torus
But wait there is more. If you flatten this thing it becomes waves.
Quote:The paper model in this project shows Villarceau circles in a torus. Each seam in the model is one of the two Villarceau circles that goes through a point. The name Clifford torus refers to the fact that this torus is a stereographic projection of a 4D Clifford torus into 3D.
https://www.cutoutfoldup.com/980-clifford-torus.php
https://www.cutoutfoldup.com/980-clifford-torus.php
video of the paper thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJvPJJVMb8k
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(01-16-2025, 04:08 PM)Sirius Wrote: So this took some dark and interesting turns, I'm ready to try and summon something. I'm way over the halfway mark and going into the advanced stuff.
Dark because I looked into the history and most people involved in the creation of the tapes met their fate apparently by the CIA and to be fair there was maybe a reason for them to go in. It's all just conspiracy stuff so peace and love to all
The experience itself thus far? Intense hallucinations, imagine a person suddenly appearing right in your face and you getting slammed into the bed. I saw clowns..cartoons, good times Most of the time it's all good though and just meditation, I have been doing it for 25 years.
I make changes to the instruction as they are a bit boring. Like the box to store your fears and worries and tears in. My mind would wonder forever from this or that if I left it there. The box has sides. I imbue each side with an aspect about myself. One side is for fear, another is a flame, one for health and the rest are personal. Every time a thought intrudes I make the symbol on the box that corresponds glow and suck up the thought. I also shrink it down and carry it on a chain around my belt. Why you would just leave your stuff out there in the astral plane is beyond me? Everything keeps evolving, always a little bit every session. Give your mind something to do if you have trouble focusing, I heard someone complain today.
For most instructions it is like that and things evolve over time.
Throughout the day allot of things glows. Synchronicity is also major issue and what is going to fuck me up in the end so I will have to pull out at some point.
I found a way to visualize how we move through time, or rather what happens when you change and lock certain axis's. The Clifford torus is two circles in 4D space and a donut in 3D. This donut is also magnetic fields so those two circles are everywhere in 4D. It also happens to be the shape of our auroras and I think everything else. Energy in other words.
This gif is the 4D circles moving and you can see what happen in 3D space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_torus
But wait there is more. If you flatten this thing it becomes waves.
https://www.cutoutfoldup.com/980-clifford-torus.php
https://www.cutoutfoldup.com/980-clifford-torus.php
video of the paper thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJvPJJVMb8k
Your further than I ever went.
i find focus ten and 12 enough.
helps my ptsd.
enjoy feeling of my brain being entrained at the right frequencies through the hemi synch. As they produced more and more tapes, especially after Monroe it reminds me of a cult like Scientology etc where you keep paying for deeper revelation… seems unnecessary to me but to each their own. People seem to get something out of it.
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(01-16-2025, 04:08 PM)Sirius Wrote: The experience itself thus far? Intense hallucinations, imagine a person suddenly appearing right in your face and you getting slammed into the bed. I saw clowns..cartoons, good times Most of the time it's all good though and just meditation, I have been doing it for 25 years.
Throughout the day allot of things glows. Synchronicity is also major issue and what is going to fuck me up in the end so I will have to pull out at some point.
I found a way to visualize how we move through time, or rather what happens when you change and lock certain axis's. The Clifford torus is two circles in 4D space and a donut in 3D. This donut is also magnetic fields so those two circles are everywhere in 4D. It also happens to be the shape of our auroras and I think everything else. Energy in other words.
Its good you are seeing glowing/ auras, it means you have stimulated your energy body by doing these exercises.
I am not sure the hallucinations you saw are much more than either astral nonsense conjured by your mind when in a calm state, or simple hypnagogic images, but i wouldn't be too worried about them and just let them pass?
I am able to get mind awake body asleep, and full body tingles and energy transfer but I have not been able to get the full body vibrations on my own in years. I think it may have to do with 'trying' too hard and needing deeper relaxation. I have no problem with astral sight/scrying but the full projection seems to be difficult for me so I am doing a lot of energy work to see about strengthening that.
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(01-16-2025, 05:07 PM)pianopraze Wrote: Your further than I ever went.
i find focus ten and 12 enough.
helps my ptsd.
enjoy feeling of my brain being entrained at the right frequencies through the hemi synch. As they produced more and more tapes, especially after Monroe it reminds me of a cult like Scientology etc where you keep paying for deeper revelation… seems unnecessary to me but to each their own. People seem to get something out of it.
It's funny you mention both 'after Monroe' and 'Scientology' bc I will get a lot of flak for it, and I was never in the 'Church' but years ago after reading Dianetics and some other 'hidden' texts that were(maybe still are) online, Hubbard's teachings were very good basic energy and psychological cleansing and strengthening work. Of course he was a huckster and used it for money but I think he genuinely wanted to help people as well - and he also stole a lot of his teachings from Daoism, Thelema/magick, and other basic psychology training. After he died is when it truly went cultish and became about nothing but the money, and the 'secrets' were just useless nonsense. Maybe the same thing happened to the Monroe Institute after he died, I am not sure...
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(01-17-2025, 10:39 AM)sahgwa Wrote: Its good you are seeing glowing/ auras, it means you have stimulated your energy body by doing these exercises.
I am not sure the hallucinations you saw are much more than either astral nonsense conjured by your mind when in a calm state, or simple hypnagogic images, but i wouldn't be too worried about them and just let them pass?
Not really concerned with that at the moment, but probably hocus-pocus yeah. Non-verbal communication is also a thing and the tapes instructs you to communicate with whatever is out there.
Quote:I am able to get mind awake body asleep, and full body tingles and energy transfer but I have not been able to get the full body vibrations on my own in years. I think it may have to do with 'trying' too hard and needing deeper relaxation.
Or not trying hard enough, stretch your goal post by 1000% . First charge up. Meditate floating in a vast ocean, roiling in the waves. Maybe it's night, watch the moon. Just chill out, watch the fish or some birds fly by. Do this for like 10min or until you get bored. When you go back to the full body tingles you can feel the waves sloshing around inside of you. Then do the 10 point relaxations or whatever is your thing. If you start with the face and follow a pattern on the muscle groups you will start a wave that you can pull in and push down.
Quote:I have no problem with astral sight/scrying but the full projection seems to be difficult for me so I am doing a lot of energy work to see about strengthening that.
Wishing you well on your journey
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Coming back from focus 15 was an ordeal. Took my own advise and did a session of just charging in the ocean and then went into focus 15.
The waves going through my body switched angle. Feeling it go from hand to hand made me go "oh that's how that works!" and I started bouncing it around with eventually condensing everything in my core.
Now I have a vortex spinning around inside of me, it's very disorientating! Walking around I'm all wobbly. The first 15min was intense but it's calming down now. My head is spinning allot.
In focus 15 you let go of time, it's time cessation. It comes after focus 12 that is expanding conciseness.
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(01-18-2025, 11:36 AM)Sirius Wrote: Coming back from focus 15 was an ordeal. Took my own advise and did a session of just charging in the ocean and then went into focus 15.
The waves going through my body switched angle. Feeling it go from hand to hand made me go "oh that's how that works!" and I started bouncing it around with eventually condensing everything in my core.
Now I have a vortex spinning around inside of me, it's very disorientating! Walking around I'm all wobbly. The first 15min was intense but it's calming down now. My head is spinning allot.
I like feeling the vortex going out around and back in. Very safe feeling.
never went to 15 so I can not comment. Or if I did it was long long ago.
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I could see the vortex! Such a bizarre experience. Holy crap. Took about 15-30mn for everything to become normal again. Still reeling a bit.
It wasn't the focus or something I wanted to do. The session itself was very difficult, I kept falling asleep and dreaming about a hill. The same hill over and over, it was annoying because it had no meaning to me and I could count the trees if I wanted to.
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You wrote: Not really concerned with that at the moment, but probably hocus-pocus yeah. Non-verbal communication is also a thing and the tapes instructs you to communicate with whatever is out there.
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Having dabbled in remote viewing and such, I would highly recommend not communicating with whatever is out there unless the instructions on the tape fully train you in how to handle those situations and what you may expect to happen, so that you are prepared. Do they?
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